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Macton II

Postby michael » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:36 am

This evening I looked hard at the old original section of Macton, an decided to retire the base structure. This provided the opportunity to make it just a bit wider from 12 inches to 16 inches keeping the original length of 48 inches.
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I used a 1/4 inch ply for the top and 3/4 inch x 3 inch cedar for the framing.

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Now I can play around with the structural building parts from the original.

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Re: Macton II

Postby Bilco » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:06 am

Hi Michael - great to see you posting again, and Macton reappearing ...
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Re: Macton II

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Re: Macton II

Postby PeterH » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:57 am

Great to see Macton being remade. I look forward to your posts.
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Re: Macton II

Postby michael » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:24 am

Thanks for the encouragement Bill, doc, and Peter.
Being able to play with the parts of the old Macton, was fun this evening, while taking a break from renovating the living room in the new home.

After doing a drawing of the new layout early this morning as a guide I placed all of the good pieces on the new base.

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deciding the best place for the gate might take a few tries but this is the first go at it.

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Bertrand brought Mercury out to do an inspection which he seemed pleased with.

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Well its a good start I think.

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Re: Macton II

Postby Bilco » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:05 am

It's good to see Bertrand out and about again! That gate sign is even better than I remembered ...
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Re: Macton II

Postby michael » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:40 pm

Thanks Bill, yes the gate is one of my favourite pieces of modelwork.
Here are some new pics showing two versions I am inclined to go with version 2 as it more closely resembles the original Macton.

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Here the gate has been moved and seems to be a more logical placement.

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A close up looking through the gate position from outside the works.

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By moving the gate it allows for a more open setting in the main yard area, where some activity can take place.

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Keeping the track simple will make completion of the model a little faster also, as I am not generally inclined to spend time running trains but prefer to build things this will provide a better vantage to showcase new locomotives.
I will however be running some live steam in the garden this coming summer, which I am sure my grandson will enjoy.

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Re: Macton II

Postby Bilco » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:37 pm

Version 2 is the one I'd go for Michael - looks more like Macton Mk 1, too ...
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Re: Macton II

Postby PeterH » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:00 pm

Yes, I prefer version 2. The gate and crane? extending front to back make interest. Though I think the back left corner needs a bit of thought: the track looks a bit fussy, and the corner seems to need an object to give it balance/a frame.
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Re: Macton II

Postby michael » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:36 pm

Peter I was clutching at straws with the left corner. i am thinking that it needs to be simple and clean, an extension of the asbestos siding perhaps.

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this might work better.

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Re: Macton II

Postby lesmond » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:26 pm

Just found this one, and loving it :)

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Re: Macton II

Postby PeterH » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:59 am

Hi Michael, I like the level of detail in the middle and right, so the left now looks a bit plain to me. In your version 1 I liked the alley to the back just to the left of the middle building. You could have an alley and have another building in the back left corner to match that building in the front right corner:
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Though that gets rid of the track in that corner. You could always have a wagon turntable and some track going down the alley.
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Re: Macton II

Postby michael » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:49 am

Hi Peter, what I like about your suggestion is that it gives the middle building some sense of volume by making the return.
And placing another sandstone building at the gate end works nicely too. which is like the original in that the drawing office was next to the gate.

I shall do some more tweaking.

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Re: Macton II

Postby michael » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:20 am

Hi peter here is a tweaked version it is called ver 3 Macton

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When I get out to the shop in the morning I will do some 3d massing.and remove the corrugated iron behind the gate in the yard and slide it further to the left in front and also see how it looks behind the stone pillars

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Re: Macton II

Postby PeterH » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:22 am

Looking good. I think I remember your original posts making that sandstone building, cutting the slabs from card.
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Re: Macton II

Postby Bilco » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:51 am

If you want to keep the track on the left it might be better to have a see-through fence, so any stock you put on it will be visible ...
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Re: Macton II

Postby michael » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:21 pm

Bill funny you should suggest a see through fence, because I was thinking the same thing. Last night i was thinking a chain link type fence, but given the nature of the gate I think that a high wrought iron railing would be in keeping with the overall design,but just a little simpler.

Just the railings like this

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Or leave the low wall with shortened railing and eliminate the sandstone wall columns.

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This of course would mean making some new railings which might be a good thing.

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Re: Macton II

Postby Bilco » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:07 pm

Why eliminate the columns? The iron railings on a low wall with the columns would look very striking ...
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Re: Macton II

Postby michael » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:31 pm

Hi Bill, I have not been out to the modelshop yet this morning, I am going to take some pictures of the railing straight on and also the wall with the columns, the existing columns might be too short so if I included some columns they would likely need to be taller. That said a slightly lower railing might also work.
Deep into some home renovations at the moment so my time is a bit restricted, easy to work quietly on the computer before Judy wakes up.

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Re: Macton II

Postby michael » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:06 am

I managed to get out the to the shop just before I had to head downtown for a meeting. took a few pictures and this evening did a bit of cutting and pasting.

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I like the way this is shaping up I will need to make some more railings for sure.

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Re: Macton II

Postby Bilco » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:04 am

Yes, that's the look I was thinking of - I like it!
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Re: Macton II

Postby michael » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:10 pm

I did a quick print this morning of a stone like multi story building to see what a different building would look like. i also removed the gantry at the back and am thinking that a smaller mobile type over the track to compliment the large beam type off the brick structure would give a little more flexibility.

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I will likely do a few more iterations of the three story building the print is using 8 foot floor separations and I think they need to be minimum 10 feet which would increase the height a bit which would add a bit of variety to the top edges.

I am enjoying this revisit to the original concept of Macton and will be making more iron railing.

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Re: Macton II

Postby Marty J » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:41 pm

Hi Michael,
Macton has always been one of my favorite scenes - it's nice to see it back from the corners of your shop.
Are you planning on connecting the 3 story building with a walkway to the other building?
I heard through the grapevine that the workers were really getting tired of going up and down the stairs :)
Your latest version is looking great.
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Re: Macton II

Postby Marty J » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:41 pm

Hi Michael,
Macton has always been one of my favorite scenes - it's nice to see it back from the corners of your shop.
Are you planning on connecting the 3 story building with a walkway to the other building?
I heard through the grapevine that the workers were really getting tired of going up and down the stairs :)
Your latest version is looking great.
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Re: Macton II

Postby PeterH » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:23 pm

Progress. What do you mean by printing a building?
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