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Watts' Pipe Dream

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:33 pm
by Bilco
Not much has been going on out in the garage lately, but I've been fiddling about in the warm with some little details. I want to have a pipe leading from the Suffolk & Watt Multigen into the mine to deliver compressed air to the working face, and in a novelty shop in Oxford I found this:


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What fun you can have, making weird straws to suck your drink through.


The contents of the pack look like this:


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12.5 cm plastic tube x 12
7.5 cmm plastic tube x 12
180 degree curved joiner x 4
90 degree joiner x 4
straight joiner x 8
tee joiner x 2
X joiner x 2

The joiners are made from soft rubber, the tubes from hardish plastic, and the material the joiners are made from holds the tubes quite tightly when they are inserted.

So, for my bit of pipework I lashed up this:

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I shortened a 180 degree joiner to get the curve I need to fit into the mine entrance and cut off one of the 'flanges' from one end to complete. At the other end I used a 90 degree joiner; the 'flexible pipe' is a length of spring of suitable diameter, with a piece of wire inside to hold it to the curve I need.

I've sprayed the pipework 'galvanised metal' colour - wet-on-wet silver and light gray - and I've done a bit of weathering. It needs a rust wash to finish. I've bent up some tiny brackets from brass sheet to hold the pipe and a couple of heavy duty electrical cables running from the Multigen, through an electrical panel, and into the mine.

Hours of fun

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:23 pm
by rue_d_etropal
great idea. Checked out ebay, and there seem to be various makes. I think the ones bought in Oxford are only available from USA, unless this one is the same
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DIY-Straws-40-Piece-Set-Make-A-Crazy-Straw-with-Plastic-Straws-Connectors-/171362652586?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Make_Up_Cosmetics_Foundation_PP&hash=item27e60291aa
It seems to have similar number of parts.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:59 pm
by Bilco
Hi Simon,

The one on eBay is very similar, but the contents are slightly different - 2 'long straws', fewer in the 'medium' and 'short' catagory, and only 4 kinds of joiner - no X. But it would do what I wanted, and it's only 19 pence more! Mine's made in China - no suprise there.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:44 pm
by Gerry Bullock
Wallace & Gromit also feaure a similar set albeit without the crossover piping.
I used several components here:
http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=8616
They make ideal industrial piping for Gn15.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:17 pm
by Mike Lee
Bilco, What a good find, Super Idea. Always looking for things that make pipework etc

Found a few more under 'Novelty Drinking Straws' on ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pipe-Straws-C ... 2a45fef4aa

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Childrens-Kid ... 43ce48d332

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DIY-Drinking- ... 1e877ab5e6

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DIY-Novelty-F ... 1c441ed365


I think I will be sending for a couple of the last one on the list.

PS Does anybody know where you can get packs 25/50/100 of very thin straws 2/3mm diameter (the size of the ones that are usually strapped to the sides of the Kids square carton drinks) or even better multi-packs of different sized straws? The ones in shops all seem to be about the same size 5/6mm?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:05 pm
by Bilco
Hi Mike - that looks like good value!

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:14 am
by Nevadablue
I too need compressed air piping. Thanks for the idea! :D

Re: Watts' Pipe Dream

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:35 am
by bandmbill
Bilco wrote:Not much has been going on out in the garage lately, but I've been fiddling about in the warm with some little details. I want to have a pipe leading from the Suffolk & Watt Multigen into the mine to deliver compressed air to the working face, and in a novelty shop in Oxford I found this:


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What fun you can have, making weird straws to suck your drink through.


The contents of the pack look like this:


Image

12.5 cm plastic tube x 12
7.5 cmm plastic tube x 12
180 degree curved joiner x 4
90 degree joiner x 4
straight joiner x 8
tee joiner x 2
X joiner x 2

The joiners are made from soft rubber, the tubes from hardish plastic, and the material the joiners are made from holds the tubes quite tightly when they are inserted.

So, for my bit of pipework I lashed up this:

Image

I shortened a 180 degree joiner to get the curve I need to fit into the mine entrance and cut off one of the 'flanges' from one end to complete. At the other end I used a 90 degree joiner; the 'flexible pipe' is a length of spring of suitable diameter, with a piece of wire inside to hold it to the curve I need.

I've sprayed the pipework 'galvanised metal' colour - wet-on-wet silver and light gray - and I've done a bit of weathering. It needs a rust wash to finish. I've bent up some tiny brackets from brass sheet to hold the pipe and a couple of heavy duty electrical cables running from the Multigen, through an electrical panel, and into the mine.

Hours of fun


What diameter are the straws?

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:42 am
by Bilco
Hi Bill,

The straws are 5mm diameter.

Bill

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:37 pm
by Geeky Gecko
Mike,
you said
Does anybody know where you can get packs 25/50/100 of very thin straws 2/3mm diameter

These what you looking for?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lrcldm6

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:11 pm
by Mike Lee
Thanks Stefan

Those are what I wanted.

I started another thread called 'Thin Drinking Straws' so as not to hijack Bilco's thread. I thought I had put it in 'Modelling Matters' but it is in 'Trade Tittle-Tattle' :?:

Maybee a Moderator can move the thread from 'Trade Tittle-Tattle' to 'Modelling Matters' please :?:

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:43 pm
by Mike Lee
Just been to the Boro shopping :(

Found the following at 'Discount UK Home Store' for £1.00 :D

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pipe-Straws-C ... 2a45fef4aa

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:01 pm
by Bilco
Bargain!!

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:32 pm
by Bilco
Finally got round to installing the pipe into Watts' Mine ...


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Getting there - Multigen, pipe, brackets, electrical control panel, and telephone. The electrical cables are still to come, as is the telephone line.


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Looking into the entrance - a couple of H&S notices added. But what is that over the portal ...


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After representations made by the union rep the management have put up a 'roof' over the portal to protect against falling rocks. From the number of rocks on top of the roof, not before time.

Still some weathering of the pipe to come, but it's beginning to get somewhere close to what I want. Need lots of rusty junk about the place.

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:37 pm
by Gerry Bullock
Hi Bill,
In view of the concrete portal plus the existence of H&S notices I think that the wooden platform to catch rocks doesn't match the modernity of the tunnel.
A steel mesh catch screen would seem more appropriate.
Having said that I recall seeing somewhere ( :( unknown) a similar wooden platform, however it was angled such that any high velocity rock could not roll over the front.
The piping looks great. 8)

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:50 pm
by chris69
Looks fantastic. Great Job!
But have to agree with Gerry, a bent, partially rusted , steel contraption with mesh would look more appropriate.

Best
Chris

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:49 pm
by Bilco
Many thanks for the comments and advice, chaps. The wooden 'roof' has been ripped away (only a couple of glue spots holding it in place) and I'll work up a steel frame and wire mesh replacement in due course.

The pipe has had a bit of weathering applied - just waiting for it to dry so that I can assess the need for more. The electric cables are also painted and weathered, and due for fitting tomorrow.

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:35 pm
by Nevadablue
I like it! Steel or wood, no worries. :D Very nice modeling.

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:07 pm
by Bilco
Pipes and cables now fitted - we're getting there, slowly ...


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Following the comments about the wooden roof from Chris and Gerry, a steel angle and mesh replacement has been fitted - and even angled to stop the rocks bouncing off into the midfield ...


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... and it's already stopped a few, by the look of things:


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Finally, just to give things a populated look and to give a feeling for when we have a running layout ready for Pewsey ...


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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:38 pm
by Trevor Coburn
That looks good Bill, and very similar to the entrance to Chilmark Stone Mine in Wiltshire. ( Dont know it its still there) as I used to work on their generator right beside the mine entrance.


Trevor.

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:41 pm
by chris69
S U P E R ! great , you captured it to the "T"
love the whole treatment of the mine entrance.

cheers
Chris
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:05 pm
by Trammer
Excellent stuff.

I would imagine HM Inspector of Mines would get pretty lairy about the lack of a lockable gate on the adit.

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:50 pm
by Nevadablue
Love it Bill! It looks real to me! The 'improved' rock guard will save a noggin or two. :D

Watts

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:14 pm
by Bilco
Trammer wrote:
I would imagine HM Inspector of Mines would get pretty lairy about the lack of a lockable gate on the adit.


Following Trammer's comment the staff at Watts' workshop have been hard at work putting together a gate for the Yawsez Mine entrance ...

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... the foreman is quite chuffed that they made it the right size.


They also installed a pipe to bring water pumped out of the mine workings ...


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... which dischages by the waste tipping line. The pipe runs under the gate and alongside the wing wall - the foreman is glad they took account of that, too...


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... although they all forgot that the gate covers up the H&S sign when it's open!


The gate is made up from some pieces of toy zoo cage that have been sat in my useful bits box for the last 30 years, and some shallow styrene U-section.

Happy Christmas to one and all,

Re: Watts' Pipe Dream

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:18 pm
by Gerry Bullock
Very effective Bill, however the pipe looks very close to the track at one point!