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Postby kevo » Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:11 pm

hi all . last post i did i was getting to grips with my gn 15 simplex kit but as i was waiting for some parts my mind driffted to other things . have ing a good hunt through on the virtual exhbition i came a cross( johns southpass ) manson bogie steam loco . big grins spread across my face :D i like it . my scrap box was raided and a week latter i made a start of my own version . hope you doint mind john :lol: as the build has gone a long bits were added and changed . i used a bachmann 060 tender loco with a old hornby class 25 pick up bogie .
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Re: side tracked

Postby Nevadablue » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:35 am

Very nice!
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Postby kevo » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:37 am

thanks ken :) ile be much happyer when i blow the 1st coat of primer on then all the junk bits blend together
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Re: side tracked

Postby kevo » Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:14 pm

hi all i was hope ing to get a good bit a head over x mass but it did not happen :( sill ive now addid a few more bits in the cab etc have ing been my very 1st bash at building a steam loco its been slow progress i have given it a test on a short bit of track and happy to say it runs ok even has a slight relistic side wobble .next stage is to make a cab roof and start prime ing to blend it all together
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Re: side tracked

Postby docnjoj » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:19 pm

That is beautifully detailed. Can't wait to see it finished.
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Re: side tracked

Postby kevo » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:35 pm

thanks doc nice of you to say so :D ime no engineer but ive just made up the boiler pipes etc as i go along looking at different steam locos till it looked the part . i have managed to blow some primer over the main loco to day and left it to dry in my shed so tomorow i can see what it will look like all blendid together . ile fire off some up dates as time permits .
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Re: side tracked

Postby Nevadablue » Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:34 am

Yes, I like all the details too. Coming along nicely. I must get started soon on my first styrene model loco.
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Re: side tracked

Postby kevo » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:35 pm

even tho its been cold wet damp and even a touch of snow to day i couldnt get the shed door open quick enough to see the results of yesterdays 1st coat of primer in my speed ive missed a few bit but sort them as there are few more bits to add on .
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Postby docnjoj » Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:59 pm

Definitely looking smooth and well detailed.
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Postby kevo » Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:19 pm

thanks doc i did add some rivets to day use ing wood glue they have come out ok. how are you getting on with your G9 simplex . ? ive still got to finish my GN 15 one .
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Re: side tracked

Postby Nevadablue » Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:30 am

Kevin, do you have some sort of paint booth in your shop? I need to build something for spray painting. The loco looks GOOD!
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Postby kevo » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:32 am

hi ken wish i did have a well equipped paint shop but i mostly use my motor bike shed when use ing none acylic spray i do spray in doors with acylic but only when her in doors :D is out :lol: saying that i did notice in my locol model shop on my last visit had a conplete spray booth with extractor fan and turn table for around £60 conpared to some ive seen i thought that was not bad sorry if use ing the term spray shop was miss leading :oops:
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Re: side tracked

Postby rue_d_etropal » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:50 am

My wife has a very sensitive nose, so even if I use a spray can( Halfords grey primer) outside, she can still smell it when I come indoors. I think the vapour also tends to cling to clothing. I have also found that the 3D printed plastic sucks in a lot of spray paint, so prefer to use cheaper emulsion paint, applied by brush. Still has to be out of way, and luckily my current art studio/workshop is in another building several miles from home.
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Postby kevo » Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:40 pm

yes there is not much that my partners nose can not detect she says it clings to my clothes so nice to know not a lone with that
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Re: side tracked

Postby docnjoj » Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:45 pm

kevo wrote:thanks doc i did add some rivets to day use ing wood glue they have come out ok. how are you getting on with your G9 simplex . ? ive still got to finish my GN 15 one .

Just got to paint it but my wife also has very sensitive nose and lungs. No painting these days with the temp below 50F.
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Postby kevo » Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:05 pm

crumbs ! that is well freeze ing where you are then doc we havent had a really bad winter for some yrs now bit of snow but it never lasts its all ways slightly milder on south coast of uk . look forward to see ing your gn 9 simplex when painted
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Re: side tracked

Postby Nevadablue » Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:48 am

My lady even complains about my cologne (WD40). :D

I've always thought that a tiny home made paint booth would be useful. Something simple, folding, sort of like a model photo booth, maybe a 24" cube. A computer fan, a filter system and it probably could be made to work even for brush paint and glue. Lots of things I use for model making causes 'smells'. :)
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Postby kevo » Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:42 pm

sounds good idear ken think i even saw a home made spray booth in some modell ing mag some years ago use ing a conputer fan. some one out there would have done it thats for sure good luck with it
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Re: side tracked

Postby Steve Holland » Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:21 pm

Putting on the "elf an safety" hat, just be very careful if you have a go at making a spray booth. The fan motor has to be an induction type (i.e. it runs on a.c.) as a brushed motor will create sparks at the commutator. Not a good idea with flammable paint or glue solvents :(
There was something in Finescale Modeller a few years ago about making a spray booth, and there must be something on the inter web thingy.
I got a telling off from my wife last night for using superglue accelerator on my work bench, sorry the dining table, but I think she would rather put up with the pong than have a large bang from a home made spray booth followed by a smoke blackened husband. Somebody has to catch the spiders :lol:
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Re: side tracked

Postby Nevadablue » Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:24 pm

Here's the basic machine. Cardboard and scrounged stuff. I'm building a bench power supply with an old computer power supply, so power for the fan will be easy.

http://www.stormthecastle.com/miniatures/make-a-miniature-paint-booth.htm

Sorry for the 'side track' :D

Now back to the regularly scheduled program.
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Re: side tracked

Postby docnjoj » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:37 pm

Hey Blue and all. That filter will not remove odors, only particles. You need either an outside vent or charcoal to get rid of the smell. Sorry. It might work in the bathroom with the exhaust fan on. Don't even think about the kitchen vent!
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Re: side tracked

Postby Nevadablue » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:20 am

I'm planning on finding the kitchen range hood filters with activated charcoal in them. I know they are available. Just need to find a reasonable size and source.

I found these on ebay.

* Product : Charcoal Flame Retarding Range Hood Filter

Brand New and High Quality 
made In Korea

Material : Polyester,Rayon

Color : Black

Size : 51 x 31cm(20" x 12.2")

Less than $10 for the three pads. They appear to be a foam pad. If they are what I think they are (description is funky), I can cut them in half and have six filters. Even if it takes two layers to work properly, I'll be in business.
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Re: side tracked

Postby lesmond » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:19 pm

I'm watching this one, Ken. It's a lovely design, as well as nice and easy to make.

Thankfully there is no-one else in my workplace at weekends / evenings except the cats, so smells aren't as big a problem as they would be at home (the creosote "incident" still gets trailed out every now and again by management :D ).

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Re: side tracked

Postby kevo » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:17 pm

hi all bit more progress on the steam loco . i didnt much like the open spoke drive ing wheels so used some filler then light sanding and primed them up to give it a more solid look . all so ive now given the loco a over all black primer coat which will have to be let down a tad lighter . i was abit disapointed with my wood glue rivites there not ver uniform size in some places but there have to do now . and ive added a small head lamp . any way when ive let the black downand weathered it may be ile be more happy .
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Re: side tracked

Postby Nevadablue » Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:34 am

Nice progress!
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