Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

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Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby Sooty » Mon May 02, 2016 6:58 pm

Hello all I am a total noob at this lark so be gentle with me.
I am trying to build a semi-open type manrider carriage from the Smallbrook flatbed kit. I do not have any railway in the house so this is to be pulled by my "Nellie" on the small garden railway I built last year.
I fitted small flange less bearings and drilled 2 holes in the flatbed for wires to pass through.
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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby Sooty » Mon May 02, 2016 7:05 pm

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Made a simple 3 sided box from plasticard and epoxied some small bits of tin from a can lid to the underside.
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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby Sooty » Mon May 02, 2016 7:11 pm

Small magnets glued to the seat of my would be passengers
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Canopy made by putting a piece of plasticard in the vice, apply heat to get the curve I wanted, added reinforcing strips and carbon tubes to the canopy ends.
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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby lesmond » Mon May 02, 2016 8:13 pm

Hi Sooty,

Thanks for sharing - I like the way this one is turning out, especially the magnets in the passengers. That will be handy when the carriage is parked - hard to remove the people if they are glued in :D

It will look well behind your Nellie.

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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby Nevadablue » Tue May 03, 2016 5:04 am

Nice work. I too like the butt magnets. :D That idea has lots of possibilities I think.
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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby Sooty » Tue May 03, 2016 9:56 am

Thanks for the support folks.
The magnet idea came about because driver "Firestone" leant out of Nellie as he passed over Perriwinkle Points and got decapitated. His head must be in the perriwinkle somewhere but I never found it. On losing his head his body jammed up against the Jasmine causing poor old Nellie to wheelie and the resulting carnage was too upsetting for me to divulge any further. I made a new head for Firestone from mixing epoxy on a cocktail stick, then building a further 2 layers after each layer had set. He has become Firestone's older brother Stokes and is now sporting a tricorne top hat, he also glued in now as I wasn't sure if a magnet would upset the motor in Nellie. I am new to this lark.
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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby Sooty » Tue May 03, 2016 9:59 am

Top meets bottom. The seat box is laminated with a 1 white piece and 1 black piece of card, is easier for me to see if I have aligned them correctly that way. The carbon tubes are left short of the canopy and short of the bottom of the seat box to enable wires to pass through the tubes for the lights.
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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby Sooty » Tue May 03, 2016 10:06 am

Trial fit of the end plates to the flat bed. I hope to make a good enough interference fit so I do not not have to glue the carriage part to the flatbed. The end plates will be glued to the seat box of course.
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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby lesmond » Tue May 03, 2016 12:43 pm

Great progress, am enjoying this one.

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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby Thorness » Tue May 03, 2016 8:04 pm

What a brilliant idea using magnets to hold the passengers in place. I will be stealing that idea! Thanks.

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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby Nevadablue » Wed May 04, 2016 3:58 am

Very enjoyable thread. Nice work!
I too had a driver decapitated. He fell into the great divide on my layout and his head just disappeared. I am going to attempt making a mold and cast him a new head out of hot glue. He will get a butt magnet too. Just a brilliant idea, I agree. :D
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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby Sooty » Wed May 04, 2016 5:57 pm

Disclaimer here :-
I refuse to be held responsible for all these magnets flying around like shrapnel and sticking to things they were not intended to if your glue is weaker than the magnetic attraction :D
Name plates to go on the carriage ends. I will drizzle 30 minute epoxy lettering on to these N & P ? "Nearbrook and Perriwinkle Railway"
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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby Sooty » Wed May 04, 2016 6:11 pm

Time to think about the lights and canopy top frill. Lights are cut from a strip of 3volt LEDs bought from the bay of fleas. Handy because you can just cut the length and number required off the strip and they will still work due to the way they are already wired onto the self adhesive strip. Power will be from a 3volt coin battery clipped into a the holder I will glue to the bottom of the flat bed. The only thing I am concerned about here is I would have liked a bar to connect between the wheel sets either side ( dunno what it is supposed to be but I think it looks good :oops: ) and I think it would be very easy to get damaged when placing/removing the 3v cell into its holder to switch the lights on/off. I will have to paint before fitting the lights, so the next post should be a jump forward when the paint dries.
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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby lesmond » Wed May 04, 2016 7:43 pm

REALLY looking forward to progress on this one :D

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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby Sooty » Sat May 07, 2016 5:59 pm

After a trip to Halfrauds for some plastic white primer and some ford blue paint. Time to stick the lights and frills on.
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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby Sooty » Sat May 07, 2016 6:05 pm

A few shots with a repaired Nellie. In the background you can see some garden railway alterations in progress just before a thunderstorm stopped work.
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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby lesmond » Sat May 07, 2016 8:25 pm

That is a thing of joy and beauty - thanks for sharing (and making my evening :D )

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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby Nevadablue » Sun May 08, 2016 12:29 am

I'm grinning big... :D
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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby KEG » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:36 am

A garden Rail Gn15 layout with 16,5 mm track. Something one does not see very often.
I think, new member Half Pint announced one as well.


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I like the idea of using elevated track. Much easier to keep the track clear. Most of us are at an age, where they still can bend down, but never will get up again. Hope to see more Gn15 Garden Railroads in gardens.

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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby Willow Creek Traction » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:34 pm

Lights are an interesting idea; would light up the near landscape for viewing.
Talking about thunderstorm brings to mind a question, how sensitive are the models to the wind?
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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby KEG » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:49 am

...brings to mind a question, how sensitive are the models to the wind?


Just like the real thing. Too much wind and they´ll trip over.

Smallbrook kits have plenty of lead in the resin cast chassi. Annother layer or two of sheet lead results in low centre of gravitity and improves the stability on track.

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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby Sooty » Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:12 pm

Thanks for the encouragement folks.
Time to start another carriage now I have finished the garden alterations and am happy with the result. Any one want to buy a lawn mower ? :lol:
I find the biggest problem with windy conditions (in the garden), is the action of the plants trying to grab Nellie's chimney. My fault because I like them being close to the track bed as they grow. The Smallbrook models are well weighted as Juergen has said, and handle a breeze pretty well..
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Initially I thought I would have liked part of the railway to have been at ground level but this way is more practical and much quicker/easier to get the level right.
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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby lesmond » Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:26 pm

I love it :D :D

Thanks for sharing

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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby Sooty » Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:54 am

Next one is well under way now. Started with piece of paper to get the profile and size I wanted to fit the flatbed, then cut out a few plasticard pieces.
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The Hon Mrs Hamilton tries out the new skip bath for size.
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Awkward bit for me was getting the canopy support poles aligned, remember I just work on the fly and don't plan very far in front. I changed my mind about adding lights to this one, I was not going to originally due to the first carriage being a bit too bright lighting the garden not the passengers.
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Re: Emett style carriage on Smallbrook flatbed

Postby Sooty » Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:32 pm

Same paint scheme
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These are dummy lights on the fringe as I am going to fit the light strip to underside of the canopy, hopefully to illuminate the passengers instead of the surrounding countryside this time.
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Time to breakout the 30 minute epoxy and micro balloons to make a pair of city gentlemen passengers. Epoxy on a cocktail stick
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Add a polystyrene foam body smeared with the epoxy
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Then add the cottonbud (Qtips?) with the cotton removed, arms and legs, again covered with epoxy. Shaped up a bit with small files once the mix has cured.
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