Factory Layout v2

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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby docnjoj » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:54 pm

Very superior work. I can't wait to see more.
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Re: Factory Layout v2

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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby Steve Welch » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:06 pm

Evening all,

Decided to test my plans for the various lights I'll need for the layout by starting with the fluorescent light in the cabin. I cut three LED's from one of those rolls of LED strip, mine was 11m long so you get quite a few LED's for the money. These were then stuck, after having wires attached, to a strip of plasticard:

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This assembly is then fixed onto the underside of the cabin roof:

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Using the side of a plastic milk bottle, a 'shade' was cut out, scored and folded:

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This is then fixed over the LED assembly with plasticard end plates:

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And this is the result:

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Now I know that 3 LED's are sufficiently bright I will tidy up the shade and end plates. I plan to use a variation of this for the main warehouse lights.

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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby Boghopper » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:14 am

I am so loving this thread. The factory building is just like ones I knew when at art college in the late 60s. During the holidays I worked at Carter Tiles in Poole and fondly remember the great cavernous buildings. And that little elevated office, well it sends shivers down my spine, remembering the foreman's beady eyes looking out for trouble. Fantastic.
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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby Sooty » Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:32 pm

Super.
What adhesive did you use for the plastic to milk bottle? I have found it difficult to glue plastic milk bottle material neatly.
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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby Steve Welch » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:46 pm

Hi,

I've used Evostick Contact glue - it seems to be holding so far......

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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby Hans H » Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:17 pm

This is really cool :D Looking forward to following where this will lead.

Keep up the Gnood work Steve
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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby Steve Welch » Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:03 pm

Thanks Hans I will try....

I've started on the staircase this evening that will sit along side the cabin. First I knocked up a layout drawing in Photoshop to use as a template and then cut out the two stretchers and foot plates from 1mm polystyrene sheet:

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Once these were cleaned up one of the stretchers was taped to the drawing and the foot plates glued in place in line with the guide lines. I used a small tee square to hold them for a few seconds whilst the glue set:

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Once they were all in place I left it for around an hour to ensure the glue had fully set as the structure is still a bit flimsy at this point:

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Once set, it was then just a case of fixing the second stringer followed by the end pieces which stiffened the whole assembly nicely. 1mm square styrene rod was then attached to the outside of the stringers to give the impression that they are C channel beams. Finally, 1mm square rod was was chopped into 1mm lengths and used to represent the bolts holding the foot plates in place - these will be sanded down to a consistent height once they are fully set:

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And finally, a quick test in location:

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Handrails and the small platform outside the cabin will be next, watch this space.....!

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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby rue_d_etropal » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:36 am

I presume the track is going to be inset?
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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby Steve Welch » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:18 pm

Hi Simon, yes the track will be inset although as to the method I'm still undecided - possibly plaster.

A further quick update this morning as I've made a start on the walkway adjoining the stairway, still some bracing and details to add:

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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby rue_d_etropal » Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:06 pm

I know it's my system, but my 3D printed track is worth it(it can be reused easily, at a future date so offsets initial cost).
Otherwise the inset track method Michael Mott has used is one of best I have seen usin sleepered track(it should be possible to find his posts about it on this forum). Far too many layouts I see with poor inset track, in particular seeing sleepers (one thing Michael did well to cover), and for obvious reasons it is one feature I tend to look at very carefully.
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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby chris69 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:44 pm

Hi Steve,
love what you have been doing so far. But have one question, why did you put the shear brace of the platform under the stairs? You blocked the entrance to an otherwise great supply, tool store or work space......just thinking out loud.....
I remember from my time in factories as a student, that spaces like this where generally used and accessible. Unless it was a Machine space, then there was only a maintenance access......
Other then that SUPERB JOB, can't wait to see your progress....
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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby Steve Welch » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:10 pm

Hi Simon,

I've seen your inset track system and I will definitely consider using it on the "next" layout, I'm on a bit of a budget on this one so I used track I already had from old projects. Thank you for reminding me about Michaels inset track method though as I had forgotten about that. Used watercolour paper if I remember correctly.

Chris, I think your right, I should put a tool store or something in that space. I shall be redoing that I think so thanks for the heads up....

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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby rue_d_etropal » Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:45 am

noproblem Steve, here is the link to Michael Mott's method infill track
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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby Steve Welch » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:23 pm

Thanks Simon, saved me hunting for it.

Some progress today, I took Chris' suggestion and turned the under stairs area into a storage cupboard. Good suggestion Chris I think it works well. Just loosely fitted at the moment so some of the angles are a bit weird. I will add boxes and clutter accordingly.

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Handrails next I think....

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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby NotHarryPotter » Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:40 am

Great work Steve. This will be such an interesting and atmospheric railway,
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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby Steve Welch » Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:49 pm

Thanks Geoff, appreciate the feedback.

A bit more progress over the weekend, handrails added and a few details added. Also started weathering the structures slightly.

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Re: Factory Layout v2

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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby docnjoj » Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:35 pm

Simply wonderful. Love the railings.
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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby NotHarryPotter » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:31 pm

It is looking great! :D
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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby chris69 » Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:52 pm

GREAT job on the storage room! now a switch/fuse box , stationary compressor and a welding cart to clutter up the other space........
Sorry but my imagination takes over at times.....
also like how you did the catwalk and railings.......
looking forward to your progress, looks like a super one in the making.
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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby Steve Welch » Sun Sep 04, 2016 8:56 pm

Thanks Chris, I am steadily putting together some fuse boxes, electrical cupboards etc so these will appear later. For now though I've taken the plunge and done the factory floor. I've used a method first described by Micheal Mott (Original post: http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1158&start=500) but ended up having to modify the result as you will see. I first fixed two layers of 1mm grey card between the tracks - I would have preferred to use 2mm card but could not source any locally. I left it to dry overnight:

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On top of this a further layer of 1 mm card, this time butted up against the outside of each rail:

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Next came a central strip of 1mm card, 10mm wide down the centre of each track:

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This was then covered with 140gsm watercolour paper between the rails pushing down the edges at the rails and the whole lot given two coats of acrylic gesso:

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This was left overnight to harden. It is at this point I had to deviate from Michael's method as there was insufficient clearance for the wheels on the Hornby Smokey Joe chassis. It was necessary to remove a strip from inside each rail to give clearance. It was then given a couple of coats of medium/dark grey and left to dry. Once dry an overall dusting of white chalk was then scrubbed into the surface:

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And a quick test hot to see how it was looking:

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I then added a bit more colour using pastels and rubbed into the surface:

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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby KotangaGirl » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:33 pm

A layout set inside a cavernous factory; - that's something I've not seen before. A really excellent model too and with great atmosphere and character. :D
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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby Nevadablue » Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:36 pm

I had missed a bunch of updates. Really nice work, thanks for letting us peek in. :D
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Re: Factory Layout v2

Postby Steve Welch » Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:04 pm

Hi all,

Slow week on the layout this week but I have managed to get the supports on the left hand walk way fitted and a couple of test shots taken.

None of this is permanently fixed in place yet as I still have to detail the walls with various pipe/cable runs etc so please excuse a spurious gaps/misaligned joints.

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My current job is filling in the gap alongside the inner rails left to try and hide the rail chairs with DAS clay so we'll see ho that turns out.... :roll:

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