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Re: Macton II

Postby michael » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:44 am

This is on my phone so it's not going to be long, hi Marty thanks for the great compliment.
Peter it's from a drawing in Corel just a paper sheet.

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Re: Macton II

Postby michael » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:20 am

Back home now,
Are you planning on connecting the 3 story building with a walkway to the other building?

Marty The old walkway suffered a fair bit of damage but I did like the concept. I am still cogitating about the new stone building, I am not sure about the stone it might end up either sandstone or Brick. A short walkway between the asbestos building and the new one is in the cards for sure.

I want the track to be embedded like tramway track and while I was in Calgary this last weekend I purchased a bag of Atlas brass track for $10. My plan was to strip the rails out of the snap track and double up the rails solder them together with tabs under the flat bottom. like this.

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With some .025" x .25" flat strip the code 100 becomes 1/8th inch high. I will use 1/8th hardboard as the foundation either side and between to create a level surface.

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Thinking about the tight spaces in the works I have decided to use turntables instead of points to switch from one line or direction and another.

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looking straight down to the turntables

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Re: Macton II

Postby PeterH » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:39 am

Michael, that’s developing well. What is that device in the first photo. It looks like it might void your ‘no hardware was harmed while creating this layout’ claim.
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Re: Macton II

Postby michael » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:27 pm

Hi Peter, thanks.
The device is a custom third hand that I designed to hold just about anything instead of the cheap alligator clip type that are sold in hobby shops.
I did come up with a production model that sells for $175 Canadian. The production model comes with a choice of a couple of toolmakers clamps and one spring clamp or 2 spring clamps and one toolmakers. there are additional wooden clamps for $20 each extra

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Shipping to to New Zealand would be in the range of $65 Canadian. I make these in small batches, when there are a few inquiries, the next batch will be in the spring of next year.

Here is the same device holding a ships lifeboat Davit while soldering it together.

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It allows very accurate placement and holding because it is solid and fully lockable.

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Re: Macton II

Postby PeterH » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:21 pm

Wow, beautiful. I don’t seem to do that kind of work much.
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Re: Macton II

Postby michael » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:43 am

Peter, glad you like the tool.
I soldered up most of the track sections ready for the installment once the ends are squared up.

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I think that the turntables will work out fine, I am going to see how easy it will be to operate them from below without using motors.

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any ideas?

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Re: Macton II

Postby michael » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:43 pm

The changes are continuing with some new ideas regarding the massing of the buildings to a more traditional factory type.

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I still need to make some floor level adjustments, I am also going to connect all the structures along the back side of the layout this will give it some better integrity as far as the underlying structure is concerned.

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The stone will change but making it another entry into the works makes more sense than as an alley.

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Re: Macton II

Postby PeterH » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:55 pm

Hi Michael, I’m impressed that you are making a factory type layout with the buildings and track askew to the edges. When I’ve tried to do that, including my current cakebox layout, it’s never looked right.

Personally, I prefer the arrangement in your second to last post, with the two alleys going right to the edge of the layout. Implying that the factory extends much further than we can see. And I liked that girder that used to be over the alley at the right end, which gave the alley an air of mystery.

Chris Nevad recently had an alley away from the viewer towards the back, and he ended it with a gate, which I thought was good.
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Re: Macton II

Postby michael » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:19 pm

Hi Peter, your comment about the mystery beyond the entry to the "alley" is something that I also liked, somewhat similar to the overhead walkway on the original. As I am still playing with the massing the Ideal of depth is an important one, I believe I will be able to achieve this by creating more set backs at the ground level where the doors are located in the spaces that you called "alleys"
I am still not certain about the locations of the sandstone and brick buildings being as far to the back as they are, by bringing them forward I can create a deeper setback between it and the corrugated part of the works. By adding some steel work to bridge the gaps perhaps carrying pipework(steam) it will also create more depth and obscure the view creating "mystery" I am OK with having the rear and right sides integral basically looking at a corner of the works by the gate.
More pictures later, I have a few house tasks to deal with this afternoon.

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Re: Macton II

Postby lesmond » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:52 pm

Wow. That is all :)

Most interested in the turntables, have made similar but operated manually from above.

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Re: Macton II

Postby michael » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:24 am

Thanks Les,
I have been doing a bit of furniture assembly the last day or so courtesy IKEA.
I am getting closer to what I am looking for.

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I am making some more corrugated asbestos siding to fill in a bit better above the brick element with the doorway.

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Re: Macton II

Postby michael » Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:35 am

spent some time today sorting out the turntable construction.

first I cut a few circles out of some hard green card (old filing cabinet dividers) and some .020" styrene

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next I glued the rails to the first layer of card and then added the first layer of styrene and glued it with rubber cement. added enough disks to bring the surface within .050" of the top of the rails, the styrene was glued together with plastruct styrene cement. Then added some pine boards that were .050"+ these were glued with some CA

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Once the boards were cleaned up and stained the recessed holes were drilled with a 1/16th end mill on the micro mill.

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I found that trying to drill a smaller hole in the middle of the 1/16th recess frustrating because the hole would inevitably wander. In order to circumvent this situation I soldered up a drill jig which comprised a scrap of brass with some 1/16th copper tube acting as a guide for the .028" drill bit.

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The inner holes were drilled using the pin vice by hand to accept the black 1/2" (number 63 in their catalogue) grant line nut bolt castings.

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I thought I would start here and see how they turn out.

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Re: Macton II

Postby lesmond » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:01 am

That is going to look quite lovely. Thank you for the detailed account.

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Re: Macton II

Postby docnjoj » Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:27 pm

Superb work and description as well.
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Re: Macton II

Postby PeterH » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:39 pm

Very nice. Keep the SBSs coming please.
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Re: Macton II

Postby Carlo » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:34 pm

Yes, Michael; keep the SBS coming!
I want to see what type of mechanism will be used under that Turntable.
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