Making a Brake for it

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Making a Brake for it

Postby Bilco » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:40 pm

The other day I caught myself looking at 8-coupled chassis on eBay - the Mark Smithers book has a nice photo of SHELAGH, and the dimensions are very close to 'Lady Frideswide' ... But then I remembered that I had sworn off building any more Heywood locos, so I looked for something else Heywoodian ...

I decided to make the little 4-wheel brake van, as it's a nice little vehicle and something different to what's gone before. Although both Mark's book and Howard Clayton's (thanks, Oxfordshire Library Service) mention this, there are no drawings of it and no dimensions, just photos. However, I did find a nice, clear, close-up, square-on photo online on James Hilton's website - https://paxton-road.blogspot.com/2017/0 ... katie.html . I enlarged this and scaled off the relevant dimensions, assuming that the underpinnings are the same as the 'tops' wagons, and using the wheelbase as my reference measurement.

Like Pete Cane, I'm using the Smallbrook Studios Heywood 4-wheel wagon chassis as the basis - http://smallbrookstudio.co.uk/kits-part ... s/11330205 The axleboxes are a very nice representation of the Heywood ones ...

I've added side members, beefed up the buffer beams, and made a new floor, and this is the state of play so far ...

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I've just taken delivery of some Plastruct 3.2mm square rod - Howe's model shop, which is about 2 miles away, doesn't stock Plastruct section any more, and seems to be winding it's railway stuff down. Anyway, I'll use this for the framing of the cabin ...

Hours of fun ...
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Re: Making a Brake for it

Postby Bilco » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:50 pm

On with the construction of the cabin - yesterday saw the components cut out and subtle chamfering carried out ...

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one set of parts loosely in position ...

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... and 15 minutes and a deal of swearing later ...

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... and all the current set of parts of the brake van in close proximity.

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Re: Making a Brake for it

Postby MickT » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:21 pm

There's no like facility on this forum that I am aware of, but................."Like" !

Looking forward to seeing how this one develops Bill, it's looking very good so far, you've got the very distinctive and I imagine quite difficult to model floor/frame section done "to a T"

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Re: Making a Brake for it

Postby Bilco » Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:02 pm

Many thanks Mick - it certainly helps having some good source material - thanks again.

So, the kit of parts for the cabin is now ready for assembly ...

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... the new bits are the centre section, with hole drilled to take the brake handle, and the parts for the seats. Still a bit of fettling and fitting to do, but some progress is discernable (just) ...

I sourced some 7mm scale wagon brake white-metal castings on eBay, which prove to be a perfect fit without any modification - just paint and glue ...

Hours of fun ...
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Re: Making a Brake for it

Postby nu2ng » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:58 am

'Like'...... ;)

Have you a link to the ebay page please Bill?
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Re: Making a Brake for it

Postby Bilco » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:35 pm

Hi Andi - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/O-GAUGE-WAGO ... 2749.l2649

So, this afternoon I've been having a quiet erection in the conservatory ...

"People who live in glass houses should not ....."

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One cabin side and the centre partition in place ...

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... and the other cabin side ready for the application of Plastic Weld ...

Hours of ... ?
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Re: Making a Brake for it

Postby Ron Knepp » Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:53 pm

I have built several of these cars in 2inch scale to be used on an outdoor layout
that will never happen because of old age. There are four painted green to that were
to be used with a little locomotive called Pip. The car painted reddish has brakes
and was to be a caboose

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Re: Making a Brake for it

Postby Ron Knepp » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:02 pm

This is a photo of the reddish one that was to be used as a caboose.

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Re: Making a Brake for it

Postby Bilco » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:45 am

Very nice models - thanks for the photos Ron.
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Re: Making a Brake for it

Postby chris stockdale » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:58 am

Hi Ron,

On downloading the photo so that I can see it that much larger (I'm blessed with a 30" screen) it's lovely to see the detail such as the underseat 'cupboard' with proper hinges and handle.

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Re: Making a Brake for it

Postby nu2ng » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:37 pm

30 inches?? I'm jealous Stockers - I have to make do with 15".. :(

But I suppose 15 inches was good enough for Sir Arthur.... ;)
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Re: Making a Brake for it

Postby nu2ng » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:42 pm

Thanks for the pics Ron, they look great.

What gauge track did they run on??
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Re: Making a Brake for it

Postby chris stockdale » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:15 pm

nu2ng wrote:30 inches?? I'm jealous Stockers - I have to make do with 15".. :(

But I suppose 15 inches was good enough for Sir Arthur.... ;)



I see what you did there....

I must say the screen seemed enormous on first installing it. My excuse was (is) that it was second hand, but in pristine condition and a fraction of the original new (Apple, yes, I’m a Mac man) price.

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Re: Making a Brake for it

Postby Bilco » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:33 pm

Right - some progress to report ...

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... the roof has been added, and a coat of primer overall brings it together (and hides a few infelicities ...)

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... I decided that there would be lift-up seats inside, so some approximation of hinges and a catch have been added.

I made the roof from 0.8mm aluminium sheet ...

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... bought via eBay from an outfit called Modelscape. Ordered at 14.30, delivered at 10.30 the next morning - how's that for service!

I had intended to fit the roof after painting - but after superglueing on the curved end boards I placed it onto the body to 'see how it looked' - and found it securely stuck. Only one thing for it - complete the glueing all round and get on with the painting. I found that I could spray-paint the inside of the roof quite well with the model upside down and the rest of the bodywork shielded ...

The final paint scheme will be GWR Stock Brown, to match the 'tops' wagons ...

Hours of fun ...
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Re: Making a Brake for it

Postby Bilco » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:09 pm

I've declared this project finished ...

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...and here it is, in the Stable Yard behind 'Kaffie', Peter Monjay in control. The dark brown paint job doesn't do the photographer any favours, particularly on this very dull November afternoon ...

A couple more photos ...

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I stuck a couple of brass pins from redundant electrical plugs in each seat to give it a bit of heft low down, but it's very free-running.

I fitted brakes and some rudimentary actuating rods underneath, but as they are black, and it's dark under there, you'll have to take much of it on trust ...

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Right, only a week to Warley, so I must give Berger Hall a brush-up, and make sure the staff have polished their shoes ...

Hours of fun ...
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Re: Making a Brake for it

Postby Thorness » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:19 pm

Brilliant stuff as usual!


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