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Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:10 pm
by Bilco
A few months ago, when we thought COVID was a mis-spelled word for crows, I bought on t'Bay a little kit for what was termed a tram bogie ...

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It is rather basic, but then so am I. So, my third Bodgement will start with the assembly of said kit. The basis of the chassis is a piece of 1cm U section, rather crudely cut into to show where openings are required. The first job was to open these up, square off the ends, and make the central opening long enough to take the motor, as that seemed to be the intention. The result was then sprayed black.

Next up, I decided to fit the worms to the motor. I had thought that the brass tube protruding from one end of the worm went inboard, and couldn't understand why it seemed to be too narrow to admit the drive shaft. While considering how to open the tube up, I played with the worm and motor and, for a laugh, stuck the drive shaft in the other end of the worm. It slid on nicely, and the protruding brass tube stopped it so that the worm was positioned correctly to engage the pinion ...

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I can take a hint as well as the next bodger, so the worms were fitted, with a dab of cyano to hold them in place, as per the instructions ...

Hours of fun ...

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:27 pm
by Bilco
On with the chassis ...

The axles are 2mm or thereabouts, but the pre-drilled holes in the plastic chassis seem to be 2.5mm, so the axles were a very sloppy fit. In a bid to fix this I glued rectangles of 1mm styrene inside the chassis and drilled them 2.3mm - 2mm was too small, and that was the next size up in my collection of bits. The axles were still a sloppy fit, so I glued brass washers on the outside, bearing down a touch on the top of the axles ...

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I thought about putting the 1mm rectangles on the outside, but that would have made the chassis too wide for the wheels to run easily.

Then I turned my attention to fitting the axles, pinions and wheels. The instructions say fit a wheel, then push the axle though the first hole, through the pinion, out the other side, and through the other wheel. So, I didn't so it that way -I fitted the pinion, then the wheels. It seemed to work, though ...

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The wheels turn easily, so all seems set for the next bout ...

Hours of fun ...

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:37 pm
by Bilco
Finally, fitting the motor and pickups ...

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The centre section of the chassis is built up with pieces of styrene so that the motor is at a height where the worms and pinions mesh properly ...

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Then the motor is fixed in position with cyano. The contacts fit snugly against the outside of the chassis, so hold one end central, and small adjustments can be made at the other end before the cyano goes off ...

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It's a tight fit in there, but there is just enough clearance. The little pieces of PCB have the pick-up wire soldered on and then are glued to the sides of the chassis,and the pickups are connected to the motor with short lengths of the provided wire. All is covered in the traditional thick black paint.

And, to my amazement, the wheels are level on a sheet of glass, the motor runs, and turns the wheels in the expected fashion ...

I suppose I'll have to think of something to put on top of it now ...

Hours of fun ...

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:04 pm
by Steve Holland
Looking at the date of these postings I think you had a better day than I did, stuck in phone conferences all day :(
At least your chassis kit went together easily. I am currently struggling with (whisper it quietly here) an O scale loco kit where someone re-designed the frames and put the holes for the plunger pickups right where the guard irons need to be soldered to the frames. :twisted: Don't even get me started on the state of the white metal castings - more holes than metal :evil:
Could your chassis be the basis of a Heywood style diseasel or maybe the Mini engined loco from the Rhiw valley Railway I wonder?

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:24 pm
by Bilco
Nothing so straightforward as that, Steve.

I expect that, like me. you pick up plastic things 'that might come in useful one day' for modelling and squirrel them away. Recently, I found this ...

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After emptying out the cocktail sticks the two pieces were put to one side. Then I glanced at them and thought ...

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... that looks like one of those Gn15 diesel critters. So, that's what I shall try to make to go on the tram bogie ...

First job was to bodge up a footplate ...

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It's 75mm x 35mm, which matches most of the Gn15 diesels I've made. I had thought to use the longer, clear section as the motor casing, but it's too long and doesn't leave much room for a driver, so the blue section was attacked to make it sit over the motor ...

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It looks like it might just work. Now to decorate it with assorted doors and grills ...

... and make a driver's compartment ...

... and some controls ...

Hours of fun ...

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:28 pm
by Bilco
After the last session I stuck a layer of 0.5mm styrene over the footplate, leaving a small overhang. Then I started on the motor casisng, making a grill on the front with bits of L section styrene, and some more 0.5mm around it ...

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Then I made up a little casing to fit over the motor end in the cab, with a Sidelines gearbox casting on top ...

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... and cobbled together a three-sided cab from 1mm styrene ...

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It's beginning to look like it might turn into a little critter after all. The little blob on top of the motor casing is supposed to be an air filter thingy ...

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The cab will have a brake standard in the front left corner, a throttle in the front right corner,, a gear lever and a clutch pedal - all to be made next ...

Hours of fun ...

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:40 pm
by chris stockdale
Hi Bill,

I'm currently hiding from the sun, so it's great to be able to keep up with your work. Hopefully one day in the far, far, future I'll be able to see both layout and you at a show again. :D

Cheers,

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:10 pm
by Bilco
I really look forward to that, Chris - and not too far in the future, I hope ...

Much of the recent bodgement has involved those annoying little bits of styrene, and the odd little bit of brass rod, too ...

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All the major bits just propped together at the moment, with the throttle quadrant and brake wheel - I forgot the gear lever ...

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From the front ...

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... and the rear. I forgot the Sidelines gearbox, too (it was probably with the gear lever) ...

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And some bits of distraction to to draw attention away from the motor block - brake gear and weights ...

I suppose I'll have to start thinking about painting it soon - after I've stuck all the bits together, of course ...

Hours of fun ...

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:03 pm
by Bilco
As I feared, I've run out of the yellow paint I want to use on this bodgement. I use Railmatch paints, from Howes of Oxford. Their shop is a 10 minute drive from my house - but the shop isn't open to shoppers, so I've had to order it online, and wait for the postman to deliver it ...

Meanwhile, I've sprayed it with white primer ...

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... which does a good job of bringing the various pieces together. It also does a good job of showing up the bits that need a bit more fettling ...

Still, I've got time to do the fettling - nothing in today's mail ...

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:30 pm
by demaine22
‘Oh I’ll just pop on the gnatterbox for ok’d times sake there won’t be anything on there to pull me in’

Goodness sake Bill. Cracking work as ever! I must say Gn15 is as tempting to me as it was when I was modelling in Gnine!

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:43 pm
by adamc
this looks really good, do you have a link to that ebay chassis?

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:47 am
by Bilco
Hi Adam - the seller doesn't appear to have any items on eBay at the moment.

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:59 pm
by Bilco
Well, the paint arrived early last week - as there are lots of little corners and awkward areas on the body I ordered a rattle can and a bottle of the same colour - BR Warning Panel Yellow. The first job was to brush-paint all over to cover every crevice, and two coats in the cab, as I could see that it would be hard to get spray into the bottom corners ...

When I've used Railmatch sprays before I always started to spray too close to the model, and got runs and drips, so this time I started well back. After the first couple of passes I couldn't see any sign of paint actually landing, so read the instructions (when all else fails ...). The recommended distance is 200mm - about a hand span, so I tried that, with not much more success. There was a great cloud of paint, but trying to get a coating on the model proved difficult. In the end I sprayed it 5 times, getting rather closer than advised, but with no ill-effects ...

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It's a rather egg-yolk yellow, but some weathering might tone it down a bit ...

Hours of fun ...

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:30 pm
by demaine22
Grand choice of colour Bill :)

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:07 pm
by chris stockdale
Bill,

That colour - wow! As in, wow!

It’s one of those pics you can still see seared on your eyeballs after you’ve closed your eyes! :D

Cheers,

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:08 pm
by Bilco
Well, after risking serious retinal damage every time I looked at the beast I decided that Something Must Be Done ...

After a few trials I went for a misting spray of white paint, trying to get the effect of sun faded yellow, with fading more apparent on the upper surfaces ...

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I don't know if much change is apparent in the photos, but in Real Life there is some toning down, most visible on the top edges of the cab. Maybe another bout of white mist is called for. It's rather tricky, as I'm trying not to get too close, and spraying the whole thing white again, while getting some paint actually on the model. The left side shows some spotting, but I hope subsequent weathering will disguise that ...

Hours of fun ...

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:41 pm
by adamc
Looking forwards to how this comes out, I like the compact nature of this one and the mining feel of the yellow.

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:40 pm
by Bilco
I've been involved in major constructions in the garden, as well as having people in to re-roof the conservatory - aka my workspace - so there's been plenty of time to consider the (lack of) success for the first attempt at toning down the virulent yellow. Having failed with the white mist, I opted to try the black slosh ...

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This was a reprise of my usual watery mix of black and sand colours in the 'slosh it on and wipe it off' mode ...

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... although it looks like someone's spilled a gallon of oil in the cab ...

After the deed was done I felt rather depressed at the result, but after a good night's sleep and a chance for the paint to dry I've had a reappraisal, and I think it's a basis I can work on. I'll give the rusting step a go, and refine the grot a little ...

Hours of fun ...

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:18 pm
by demaine22
Remember it’s just a base layer - I’ve been in the same place so many times and there’s nothing that, dry brushing, powders, or just flat out starting a fresh can’t fix...as you say, hours of fun :)

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:38 pm
by Broadoak
Bill, I always find that several lighter washes of greys and browns put on with plenty of water work well for me. I think this is how things get weathered in reality, it takes time to loose that pristine look. This only applies of course if you are using either water colours or acrylics which I find better than oil based paints. I use oil based paint for the main body colours although of late I've been experimenting using Humbrol water based paints as well.

Regards Peter M

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:59 pm
by Bilco
Many thanks for the suggestions, chaps - I used to be able to do weathering, before I got into the Heywood thing and kept the models pristine ...

Anyway, Mrs Bilco is a calligrapher, and has a nifty little pencil-shaped rubber for correcting mistakes. It also removes excess black slosh, so I worked over the whole thing to tone down the tone-down, then added some rust with watercolour pencils ...

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So, what's the verdict - OK or still too much?

I might have to press the strip and repaint button ...

Hours of fun ...

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:19 pm
by chris stockdale
Hi Bill,

I think the current level of grot/grime etc. is perfectly fine.

A couple of pics from stuff I’ve collected off the internet over the years. Alas, that means I can’t give a credit to the photographers, so if they should look in, my apologies!

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:31 am
by Broadoak
That looks just about right Bill, not too much, just right. 8)
I'd leave it at that if I were you.

Regards Peter M

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:20 pm
by Bilco
Chris, Peter - many thanks for your encouraging comments. I have left it (almost) alone - it's had a couple of coats of Dull-Cote, and some Citadel Leadbelcher dry-brushed on strategic points for wear. I'm now declaring this Bodgement finished ...

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It was hours of fun ...

Re: Bilco's Bodgements #3

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:58 pm
by Remote1
Bill,

Wonderful! Superb!

Congratulations on a great build.

Steve