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Postby michael » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:32 pm

A bit of a sad update, yesterday I finished putting all the buildings and parts of Macton into some cardboard boxes in anticipation of a move later this year. The amount of work that is appearing on the horizon regarding finishing my house and downsizing many years of collecting is looming large. I hope that I will be able to do bits and pieces here and there as a break from the more practical tasks at hand.
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Postby Jon Randall » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:04 pm

Oh I don't about that Michael.
Just keep thinking that when you do get settled in and you start opening those boxes then it'll be like christmas day :D But without the socks. :roll:
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Postby franckcombe » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:15 pm

hi michael,

does the wagon that appears with the loco is an ingot car from ho scale modified ?

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Postby michael » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:27 pm

Hi Franke The heavy metal flat is detailed here http://members.shaw.ca/emm48/Heavy%20metal%20Flats.htm
it is completely fabricated from styrene with some ho wheelsets
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Postby marc_reusser » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:37 am

Michael,

I am fairly new to this group, but have been lurking in the background watching this project, and I just wanted to say, it has been a real joy. It's beautiful, and very inspirational.

The other reason was maybe to help with some info re the corrugated fastening.

This is from an old construction materials and fabrication catalog:

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It also notes below this image, that they recommend the use of a large lead washer that wil conform itself to the shape of the galvanized thus sealing out the water.

Hope this is of use.

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Postby marc_reusser » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:52 am

A bit late with this, but seeing you're building steel billet cars, I thought you might find these interesting also.

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Postby michael » Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:25 am

Hello Marc thanks for the kind words regarding the layout. It will be a while now befor I can get back to it, most of the buildings are now safely stored away in a few card boxes, awaiting a move to the lake.

Also thank you for the images of the heavy wagons, they will be filed into the Macton Locomotive Works archives, for Bertrand's use later this year, He will need something to do at the lake when it get to be winter again.

I have long been an Admirer of your wonderful models I particularly liked the diorama with the rusty bedspings laying alonside the biulding.
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Postby michael » Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:32 pm

Rather than start a new thread I thought that I would add a section here on the corrugated and to resurrect this thread a little.

First the Asbestos was a printed texture from the Mayang's Textures site, this was a few years ago and I do not know if that site is still up.

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next it was cut into the sheet size and run through the crimper

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then glued onto the substrate(corrugated cardboard) of the building.

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Now for the rusty corrugated used on the bridge.

first the cover-stock was painted with a course brush with some old Pelican Ink.

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Then before it was dry different browns ochres and orange Rembrant pastel chalks liberally applied, I kept the direction the same for all the applications. and dried coffee grounds were rubbed into the damp card

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the card was flipped over after it was dry and wire brushed by hand. then cut into sheet sizes before running through the crimper I seem to recall having to experiment a little to get the correct width to wind up with the correct size for the finished sheets.

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I made more than i needed so I could select the ones that had the best look(totally subjective of course)

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next I touched up the edges with a reddish brown chalk.

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Lined them up and stuck them to the roof of the bridge with carpenters yellow glue using a tooth pick.

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I hope this helps, it was a while ago that I did this, and now I want to get back to working on the layout, I need to get a couple of other projects out of the way first but all the parts are still there I do have a little remedial work to do on one edge of the layout a touch of moisture being the culprit for the damage.
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Postby John New » Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:32 pm

Thanks for that Michael. Your work on Macton was always an inspiring build thread i- making the reader want to try things.

I guess though as you haven't mentioned how to it was someone else who did the rust holes thing that I remember being something to do with printing onto brown paper then rubbing over an abrasive surface - but altered in someway - it is that x???? alteration I can't remember what it was.
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Postby michael » Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:56 pm

Hi John, I cannot remember the brown paper thread, but the card stock was also rubbed a bit with abrasive paper on the back side while the pre-crimped sheet was laying on the coffee grounds, this is what did cause the neat holes in the card.
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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:20 pm

Got one of those same crimpers but am having a devil of a time keeping it from coming out without curving the corrugation strip.

michael wrote:next it was cut into the sheet size and run through the crimper
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Postby michael » Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:29 pm

I have found that it is really important to set the card or paper squarely in the middle if the crimper, and I squeeze the crimper tightly closed before turning the handle. Some times it curves on me too, I just turn it over and run the paper through again.
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Postby tom yorke » Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:35 pm

That is a common problem. It is because the crimper is not a precision tool. Simple as that.
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Postby John New » Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:35 pm

thanks , i will try that as an experiment
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Postby michael » Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:53 pm

Hi Tom
You are absolutely correct.
Years ago when I was working as a commercial model maker I had to make the special siding for one of the manufacturers of camp trailers, I milled up the rollers to the correct form and mounted the rollers in bearings with fine screw thread spacing adjusting screws. I used .020 orange vinyl sheeting I had some left over which I used on Macton around the loading Bay

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Postby gfadvance » Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:58 pm

michael wrote:
First the Asbestos was a printed texture from the Mayang's Textures site, this was a few years ago and I do not know if that site is still up.
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This is the current texture site if it helps http://www.cgtextures.com/

Interesting and informative work Michael, as per usual
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Postby Steve Bennett » Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:09 pm

Mayang did return after a spell offline
http://mayang.com/textures/
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Postby Sir Briand » Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:26 pm

Stopped by for the first time in months and it was like stepping back into a time mchine :shock: 

Macton Works and Mayang textures :shock: 

Thanks for the link to the other site. Great stuff there. 

Must confess I have not been doing much modeling these days as I got interested in 2D art a couple of years ago and it sort of took over spare time. However "Upton Whent" and "Red Fox Amusement Park" still make appearances at area Train Shows. Just recently, through my 2D connections, I was Guest Artist at the 50th "Painting on the Green" art show here in Guelph, Ontario and showed my "..exciting piece of 4D art". This was my 40 x 48 inch 1:43.5 scale O16.5/O9 layout, Underneath the Arches,that was once featured in NGSLG and is shown in my website. I have always maintained that it was art, as are all the layouts seen in the Gnatterbox. Nice to have it officially validated.

Apologies for getting a bit off topic. It was nice to get reconnected to Michael and his work. Always inspirational and to see Steve still coming up with the good stuff.

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Postby Rowley » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:50 pm

Only just got onto this site. I saw the beginnings some time ago when I was looking at Mercury on your website but didn't have time to look at the Macton building. Now reading the whole of the topic from the start I can only say what a great and inspirational layout. Look forward to seeing more.
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Postby michael » Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:22 am

Well it's been a while, but Here' wot I'm thinkin' With my new-found interest in maritime stuff well it's not that new the first boat model was at the tender age of 14 or 15 and it was a kit, I took it to Kensington round pond and was instantly dismayed by all the phenomenal models built by chaps that were into their 5 or 6th decade. So I moved over to trains.

I am thinking that their needs to be a Canal or some water next to the Factory, not sure yet how to deal with it but something tells me that it's gonna happen. Bertrand's Uncle Phillipe had a cousin who was a bargee on one of the canals, and spent some time in the Thames basin at the old docks. I must go and visit to sort out some things.
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Postby gfadvance » Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:35 am

Welcome back Michael :D :D

Good to see you have come back to Macton , look forward to seeing developments.

Trust the "op" went well and you are now back in full modelling capability
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Postby franckcombe » Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:26 am

Your work is really fantastic with a specific touch of art, great art !

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Postby michael » Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:37 pm

Thanks for the welcome back Gordon and Frank. I am not up to full model speed just yet but the juices are flowing. Just working at keeping warm through this long cold snap. -20 ish all month so far and only three full sunny days. Still that's better than our citizens farther north who don't get to see the sun for a few weeks yet.

The Idea of the water is appealing more and more. This will take a bit of thinking because I really don't want to take anything apart at this time, Ive done enough of that so as soon as I clear off a bit of space in the shop and set up the works for a look I might add an extension or a small board off at right angles or something.

Phillipe it turns out was involved in building boilers for small steam launches Who Knew? Perhaps the corrugated building will have the other side facing the water..... hmmmmm the posibilities are interesting, I think it has to be operational or I should say during the time that launches were still being worked on and that the water was still a busy place as well as the railways. The heyday of the canal era, maybe even close to a lock or something.

Better go and have some tea to think about this some more. Drawings will be next.
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Postby michael » Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:48 am

I pulled the Macton elements out of storage this afternoon..... If I knew then what I know now I would have stored things differently.

5 years of up and down temperatures ranging from 30+ to -30 and some leaks.

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The baseboard survived well the card buildings not so well. All is not lost though I think that Bertrand has his work cut out for himself though, he will need to call in his buddy stonemasons to do some work this coming year.

As one can clearly see through the doorway the owners needed a little consoling

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the asbestos building also suffered a little damage during these past five years.

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The walkway seemed to fair reasonably well just a spot of mould at the right end , nothing that a spot of bleach wont fix.

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So given my thoughts about adding the water I will now have a good hard look at the layout and see how we can salvage what is salvageable and how to incorporate the desired changes.
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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:39 am

Aw man, sorry it got damaged :(
It's really been five years :shock: Time can fly.
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