(F) Romney Hythe and Dymchurch diesel - Help please.

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(F) Romney Hythe and Dymchurch diesel - Help please.

Postby Blackcloud Railways » Thu May 11, 2006 9:01 pm

Help wanted please. While browsing the web I came across the RH&DR website and this picture:

http://www.rhdr.org.uk/rhdr/stock/stock_art/engineers_train.jpg

Does anybody know of more pictures, from different angles, of this loco? I would like to build a model of it for my "Hayfinch Estate" 15 inch gauge (Gn15) diorama.

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Postby Steve Bennett » Thu May 11, 2006 9:38 pm

That is the ex-Eaton Hall Simplex, Bob. The bottom half is standard Simplex, but widened from the normal 52" to 56.5" to accomodate moving the drive gear to one side to line up with the narrower gauge. The upper part was added at the RH&DR. I think I can find some more pics, but I'm off to stain some balsawood, so it will probably be tomorrow before I can find them.
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Postby terrystrains » Thu May 11, 2006 9:47 pm

This is the only photo I could find at present:

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Postby DCRfan » Fri May 12, 2006 7:12 am

Here's a picture from 1970 issue of "World's Smallest Public Railway":

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Postby David Percival » Tue May 16, 2006 7:39 am

I don't profess to be a 'Simplex' expert but I am an enthusiast -- a number of things puzzle me about the RHDR loco.

An LGRP photo of the Eaton Hall loco in Howard Clayton's The Duffield Bank and Eaton Railways (Oakwood 1968) shows clearly that it was of the bow-frame type whereas the RHDR loco has straight flat frames. I bow to Steve's greater knowledge on the subject and the widening, but the bow-framers were 58 inches wide across the frames anyway and so would probably not have needed altering too much for 15-inch gauge.

In addition, it is clear that the radiator on the RHDR version is different to that at Eaton Hall (incidentally, why has the upper cooling pipe which ran from the engine jacket to the radiator header tank been removed?). The cab is also different but this could easily have been changed -- all in all, I'm left wondering whether in fact, this is the same loco? The RHDR example bears many similarities with those rebuilt by the Kent Construction Co. and I'm wondering if this loco has been through that process -- any ideas?

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Postby DCRfan » Tue May 16, 2006 8:53 am

In Terry's photo I would venture the radiator is off a Fordson Model F Tractor. The one in the other photo is quite different.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue May 16, 2006 9:16 am

David Percival wrote:I don't profess to be a 'Simplex' expert but I am an enthusiast -- a number of things puzzle me about the RHDR loco. An LGRP photo of the Eaton Hall loco in Howard Clayton's The Duffield Bank and Eaton Railways (Oakwood 1968) shows clearly that it was of the bow-frame type whereas the RHDR loco has straight flat frames.


You are quite right David, Eaton Hall had two Simplex locos. The first was of the early bow frame type (2099 of 1922) and it was later joined by a plate frame version (7059 of 1938), which is the one now at the RH&DR.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue May 16, 2006 9:20 am

In Terry's photo I would venture the radiator is off a Fordson Model F Tractor. The one in the other photo is quite different.


Spot on Paul, it did have a Fordson radiator for a while.
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