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Pauls Card Challenge Layout

Postby DCRfan » Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:57 am

This thread based on a good idea from Andrew will show the progress on my attempt at the 2007 Cardboard Challenge (see http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=2021&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 )

Just assembled the 'bridge' although it is probably not truely a bridge as it has no structure just piles under the sleepers. I pre-bent the rail then roughly assembed the rails with a few copperclad sleepers before super gluing the wooden sleepers in place. Once they were dry I put trackpins in all the sleepers in pre-drilled holes then snipped off the ends of the pins protruding throught the bottom of the sleepers. All the copperclad sleepers were then removed except one at each end (just in case)

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Now to make 28 identical length piles :( :(

I can see the rivet counters commenting on my poor engineering so I'll have to keep a copy of the prototype 'bridge' picture handy :twisted:
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Postby DCRfan » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:44 am

:( :( :evil: :evil: :evil: Did I ever get it wrong
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I measured the bottom rail height above the water level, set up a jig and cut all the piles then glued them on to the bottom of the sleepers. Only then did I realise I had not subtracted the sleeper depth so all the piles are 3.4mm too long. Anyway the bridge does not look spindley enough so probably every second set of sleepers/piles will have to go :roll:
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Postby DCRfan » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:38 am

I thought I'm not going to bed until it's corrected and it was painless but I've re-re-learnt the old addage measure twice cut once :o

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Postby Hudson Hunslet » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:48 am

Hi DCRfan, the bridge looks good and the trees too. How have you made them?
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Postby Steve Bennett » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:52 am

DCRfan wrote:I thought I'm not going to bed until it's corrected and it was painless but I've re-re-learnt the old addage measure twice cut once :o


But will you remember next time :wink: I know I never do :roll:
In this case though Paul, it worked out well, the extra spacing between the supports, looks a lot better and closer to the prototype picture. I like it a lot more as you have it now, if you had cut the piles the right length to start with, you might have stuck it straight down and regretted it later :wink: Always look for a positive :D
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Postby More_Cats_Than_Sense » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:53 am

Looks terrific :D :D
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Postby Rockley Bottom » Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:46 pm

Paul

That is what I have been doing wrong all these years, measuring once and cutting twice :oops: :oops:

Measure twice cut once........... measure twice cut once.......... : :? :? :?

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Postby MOG » Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:49 pm

measuring?? :wink:

Looking good!
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Postby More_Cats_Than_Sense » Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:53 pm

Rockley Bottom wrote:Paul

That is what I have been doing wrong all these years, measuring once and cutting twice :oops: :oops:

Measure twice cut once........... measure twice cut once.......... : :? :? :?

Ralph


My variation of that saying is "Measure twice, cut once, let a bit in!"


:lol: :lol:
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Postby DCRfan » Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:09 am

Hudson Hunslet wrote:Hi DCRfan, the bridge looks good and the trees too. How have you made them?
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I can only say 'see the next Tome' :wink:
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:26 am

Extra length twixt piles certainly makes the track over water/swamp look more realistic. Await with interest future developments.
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Postby DCRfan » Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:35 am

Gerry Bullock wrote:Extra length twixt piles certainly makes the track over water/swamp look more realistic. Await with interest future developments.


As long as its not the splash as the loco aka Bluebottle, falls into the water :wink:
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Postby andrew milner » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:08 am

Loking good Paul, much better with fewer piles (aren't we all :?: :twisted: ). Wish I'd put a bridge on mine now......hang on, it's only card... :shock:
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Postby DCRfan » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:05 am

A facia, cardboard naturally, has been hot glued to the edge of the baseboard and the first layer of epoxy water added to the swamp. The picture shows the bridge strength test by my 'GT-2' Gutertriebwagen 8)

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Postby Steve Bennett » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:24 am

Oooh, I like that, the water is looking great already Paul.
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Postby Korschtal » Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:58 pm

I like the wagon ( :?: ) on top. Is that part of the secret or can we know what it is?
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Postby DCRfan » Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:02 am

Korschtal wrote:I like the wagon ( :?: ) on top. Is that part of the secret or can we know what it is?


No secret. This was one on the first Gn15 models I built using a cheap Lifelike chassis so only one bogie is powered.

It is based on a Diema GT-5 shown on this link
http://www.feldbahnmuseum.de/component/option,com_ponygallery/Itemid,28/func,detail/id,25/

A member of the museum staff very kindly sent me about 20 pictures. I down sized it to 15 inch gauge. A GT-5 carries 5 cubic metres so I calculated the 381mm gauge version is a GT-2 :lol: Yes carries only 2 cubic metres :roll:

I now have a folder full of info on these machines including plans of GT-15 which has the cab in the centre between the hoppers. I have a drawing of my GT-2 if your interested.
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Postby Korschtal » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:14 am

Unfortunately I don't think it'd fit too well with my layout theme :( I was just fascinated by the shape and way it worked. Narrow Gauge obviously got hold of the freight multiple unit idea long before standard... :)

I've also not come across lifelike chassis. WHere are they made?
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Postby DCRfan » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:48 am

Korschtal wrote:Unfortunately I don't think it'd fit too well with my layout theme :( I was just fascinated by the shape and way it worked. Narrow Gauge obviously got hold of the freight multiple unit idea long before standard... :)

I've also not come across lifelike chassis. WHere are they made?


They are not really freight carriers. The Diema GT series have a pair of side tipping hoppers. Many were automatic with no driver. They were worked by switches projecting from the side of the chassis contacting trackside frames which caused the machine to stop and tip or to just stop at the other end of the line until someone pushed the go button again.

Like many toy trains Lifelike are made in China but I believe marketed out of the US.
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Postby Albert » Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:59 am

More_Cats_Than_Sense wrote:
Rockley Bottom wrote:Paul

That is what I have been doing wrong all these years, measuring once and cutting twice :oops: :oops:

Measure twice cut once........... measure twice cut once.......... : :? :? :?

Ralph


My variation of that saying is "Measure twice, cut once, let a bit in!"


:lol: :lol:


In Holland we say : "I cut off a piece twice but its still to short ..........."
Anyway, there are things you can't measure.......it's called art.

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Postby Korschtal » Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:06 pm

Albert wrote:
Anyway, there are things you can't measure.......it's called art.

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:D :D :D :D :D I'll remember that!
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:59 pm

Korschtal wrote:
Albert wrote:
Anyway, there are things you can't measure.......it's called art.

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:D :D :D :D :D I'll remember that!


I guess this qualifies though to my mind it looks more like cutting errors :twisted:
http://www.uncrate.com/men/images/2006/ ... -table.jpg

Sorry Paul I too wondered what the Loco was Gnow I know. :D
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Postby michael » Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:13 pm

Gerry that is ugly in my opinion but brilliant from a practical design point of view , because the books dont flop over and are always leaning against one side or 'tuther. :wink:
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Postby Hudson Hunslet » Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:46 pm

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Postby Hudson Hunslet » Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:50 pm

According to the comments on the Diema-Kipper, i`ll show you a pdf-File of another Diema Kipper which is hydraulycal opperated. It is located at the Frankfurt Feldbahnmuseum and should be very unique.
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