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Postby Glen A » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:18 am

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If you are obsessed with having lightweight modules, stop reading now (or risk a heart attack). :lol:

I have got the river bed in. I found a big bucket of small stones and glued them down with pva. It has added a bit of weight to the layout, but I can still pick it up ok. (lucky all the other foam rocks are light!).
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A friend came around later this afternoon, so I put him on the end of the digital camera while I drove, and I have now got this little video of the wagon loading animation:
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I have put the first layer of 'water' in the river tonight.

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Postby Jon Randall » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:33 am

Very Gnice 8)
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Postby gfadvance » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:48 am

Video is brilliant :D

And the rock you found go realy well with the "frocks" - its really coming together well
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Postby DCRfan » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:05 am

I hope your small stones didn't come from the Arahura River or you will get a visit from Ngai Tahu claiming ownership of your river bed :wink:

Looking very good and love the video 8)
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Postby Oztrainz » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:13 am

2 words - OH WOW :!: :!: :!:
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Postby David James » Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:20 pm

Glen that is awesome!

I had to watch the video over and over.

I think that has become my favorite short model Railroading video.

You should be proud!

Well done.

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Postby henrix72se » Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:39 pm

Great Video ! :D

I like!

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Postby Glen A » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:22 pm

Thanks for all your kind comments.


DCRfan wrote:I hope your small stones didn't come from the Arahura River or you will get a visit from Ngai Tahu claiming ownership of your river bed :wink:

Looking very good and love the video 8)


No, off my step daughter's driveway in Hokitika :roll:
West coast schist, nice 8) You pay an arm and a leg for it at landscape shops on this side of the mountains. but over there is it worthless.

Apparently the rocks going into the Arahua River for protection of the new Road & Rail bridge are coming out of the same quarry as some of the rocks on my garden railway, So I am going to claim ownership of all the whitebait caught in 'their' river
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Postby Glen A » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:11 pm

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My first Yarrrow tree (and the first tree on this layout) was put on last night.
There are a couple more to go on, but I need to do some other finishing work in the area concerned.
It's now just over 2 weeks to the show, so I suppose I better wire it up, (and start building the last module) soon!

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Postby Simon Andrews » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:43 pm

After a really s**ty shift Sunday your short video put a smile back on my face :) The tree looks great as well , hard to believe its not a commercial product 8)

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Postby Glen A » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:27 pm

18 months ago I started building two modules; 1 & 2. No 1 was going to have a mine with working pithead and vertical shaft. No 2 was going to have the stamping battery.
No 2 was worked on first, and when that was finished a third was started. :twisted:

Now with the need to have a terminus and a run-round loop at the point to point line, module 1 has been resurrected.

The track plan has been slightly modified, and points have started going in.
There will be a run around loop in the middle, and sidings front and back. the track will go to the edge of the module, in case there is an urge to add more later and make this the middle crossing station :twisted:

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Most points are live frogs, and there is a wire running in some curtain rod to a slide switch at the edge of the module.
You don't get a close up because the work is not as neat as Barry's. :wink:
With only 9 days to the show, I din't think this one is going to win any scenery awards this year :wink:

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Postby Will Vale » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:24 am

Everytime I look at your rockwork it makes me want to rip all mine out and start again. It's just fantastic.

The bridge module is a really good addition, it's nice to have space for a long run and a contrast to the tighter curves and busy area around the stamp battery. I'm looking forward to see what you do for the water as well.

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Postby Glen A » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:20 pm

Will Vale wrote: I'm looking forward to see what you do for the water as well.

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Actually I tried the idea of the Gel medium from the art shop (I think that was your idea Will?).
I put 4 coats on (and vey thick ones at that) with thin washes of paint between each layer to try and make it slightly opaque (to try and make the depth look greater).
Some paint washes were white, and others blue.
I also tried a 'muddy' colour in the bottom left as an outflow from the swivel box.

It still doesn't look 'deep' enough for my liking yet (which is why I haven't posted to date), but I am having to leave it for now, as I really need to concentrate on getting the track wired so I can run a train.

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Postby Will Vale » Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:09 am

The colours in your picture look great, thanks for posting!

I've used the thick gel and I think I mentioned it here, but maybe not quite in the same way - I used the gel more for detailing and the waterfall on the Z layout, with thin gloss medium for the deeper water.

If I could offer a suggestion it looks a bit brush-marked. You could try painting over some of the thin medium which has (at least the brand I had did) a higher gloss, and when that's dry, mix medium and gel to get something with less body and stipple it on - the raised areas should slump a bit while it dries but you get a nice rippled surface without brush marks.
Word of warning though - the gloss medium I tried takes *ages* to dry, so thin coats and patience are the order of the day. An incandescent lamp works well for speeding things along (I used a small halogen reading light) but it may cause more shrinkage than you'd get otherwise.

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Postby chris krupa » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:52 am

I used gloss medium on my most recent 009 layout West Sapple. I made sure that it dried relatively smooth and then painted over it with acrylics (mostly from Games Workshop). I then painted the result with many coats of gloss varnish just as I would have if I'd used another sub surface. I don't think that the medium itself is sufficiently glossy to provide the necessary depth for water.

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Postby Glen A » Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:17 pm

Thanks Chris. I am going to do varnish later when it gets warmer in summer.

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And now the latest progress:
I have now got the track down:
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the sidings at the front are for a later addition which won't get finished in the next 4 days in time for this show.

And it is wired up ready for testing today. More wires than Paul's, and messier than Barry's :lol:
Each section of track comes to a common terminal, and at this stage they are all jumpered into one feed, but later I will be able to run wires to a control panel.
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Postby Glen A » Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:32 pm

I needed yet another set of hopper bins, to load the wagons.

The idea is to tip the stones into a access compartment at the back, and they fall into the wagons.

I made a mock-up using cardboard boxes to check heights and angles:

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Then made the real one (a 2 wagon hopper!) out of some other card board.

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View from the back showing the access holes. The top will have a false cover with stones on it so you don't see the stones being tiped inside.

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I painted the cardboard black, then weathered up some iceblock sticks, and started gluing them on the sides. Still more to be done, but testing was successful :D :


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Postby Gerry Bullock » Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:20 pm

My you have moved on since early September Glen. Just watched video for first time - superb, as is the rest of the layout - great modelling. 8)
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Postby Glen A » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:06 pm

Gerry Bullock wrote:My you have moved on since early September Glen. Just watched video for first time - superb, as is the rest of the layout - great modelling. 8)

Thanks Gerry. I seem to build better under pressure.

And what a difference a day makes:
Here is the module just after Noah left (as the great 'flood' of glue arrived) :lol:

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And after the ballast came the scenery:

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Still more to be done (if I get time in the next 2 days), but at least it is a presentable standard now.

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Postby gfadvance » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:37 pm

You certainly don't waste time do you :lol:

Looks really good :D

Makes my excuse that I don't have any modelling time at the moment look a bit lame :oops: when I see what you can do in a few days
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Postby dieselwater » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:50 pm

Really nice looking layout. Very interesting seeing it come together.
Little old lines to somewhere.

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Postby Glen A » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:03 pm

The layout is now set up at the train show ready for the next two days running.
My decision not to bother joining up the layout at home for testing proved to be a good one.
It was joined up for the first time at the show and worked as expected. :wink:
Final additions were some new lighting bought cheap in a sale. I now have enough spot lights to illuminate two house size rooms, so no chance of NOT seeing the layout. :lol: :lol:


:shock: To my surprise I was not the only Gn15 layout at the show. The Far Twittering and Oyster Bay “Emmett” railway was brought out of a museum especially for the 20th anniversary show.

Sorry I forgot to take my camera last night, but will be taking it today. So expect some photos and movie next week.
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Postby DCRfan » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:14 pm

Best of luck with the show. I gnow your layout will be a star but remember to TAKE YOUR CAMERA :wink:
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Postby Gavin Sowry » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:21 pm

DCRfan wrote:Best of luck with the show.


:lol: Ditto.
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Postby Glen A » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:29 pm

A quick posting before I head off for another days operating.

Here is the layout all joined up:
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And late Saturday afternoon in the last minutes of the show, some railfans visited the railway and management allowed a 'railfans special' to be run, with double headed Davenports hauling a loaded train in the wrong direction on the layout, so they could get a photo crossing the bridge. :wink: :lol:

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A man is panning for gold in the river bed below.


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