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Postby rue_d_etropal » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:49 pm

How about Devon clotted cream Steve. The fruit could then be for a jam factory next door.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:42 am

rue_d_etropal wrote:How about Devon clotted cream Steve. The fruit could then be for a jam factory next door.


The thought had crossed my mind Simon, but the yogurt idea is taking a hold at the moment :) . Have just been looking at some OO scale fire buckets, which could make quite good yogurt pots :) I guess they could also be used for cream :roll:
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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:46 am

Peter wrote:Anyway, is it just me or all our layouts starting to revolve around food? Watercress, Milk, Salt, Yogurt, Potatoes, Beer? Are we all just that hungry? Or perhaps were just subconcously trying to make a balenced diet?


:lol: You forgot mushrooms Peter :D
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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:27 pm

Just as you thought this thread had disappeared into the depths :) back it comes again :)
Rather than polute Brians thread further(http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=944) I thought it best to put my latest pics in here. All revved up last week in preparation for the weekends show, at which this little layout was due to make an appearance as part of a demonstration, I decided to make a big effort to finally replace the printed roof slates that had been on there for far too long. Inspired by Brians progress and with little time available, it was time to focus to stand any chance of getting it done in time, but I got there as these two pics show.
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After all that effort though, due to a change in venue for the show, it wasnt possible to give the planned demonstration, due to lack of space, so nobody got to see it anyway :) Not a problem really, the deadline had given the impetus to get it done :)

Now to the real purpose of this post, a little trick with roof slates/tiles that some may not have seen before. Putting on tiles/slates as card strips, with a cut between each tile is nothing new. Where this technique varies is that instead of just a single cut with a knife, I use a knife with two blades in it, thus creating a bit of a gap. This is probably overscale, but it does make the individual tiles stand out from each other. Hopefully this pic will show what I mean.
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Nothing complicated, I think you will agree. I find it best to cut the gaps from the full sheet of card before cutting off that strip of tiles, it gives you more to hold onto(until you get to the end of the card anyway :) ). The little Exacto type knife in the pic, is just used to cut the end of the little slithers of card after the larger double bladed knife has cut the two parallel lines. Simplicity itself. One final pic, which goes in closer on the double bladed knife, the gap is very small, hope you can make it out.
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Postby dr5euss » Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:42 pm

I meant to ask how you did the tiles when you unearthed it for me, but I was looking at the pebbles in the rails, which look equally good :D !

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Postby michael » Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:45 pm

Very nice Steve, I might have to give that a try on the bricks for Macton.

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Postby Sir Briand » Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:11 pm

Neat Steve. Thanks for the closeups. Next time around I will try a simpler roof finish :roll: . I still have to straighten everything out. There are a few curves in the wrong places :cry:
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Postby cjwalas » Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:27 pm

Very simple and effective technique to enhance a basic approach. Good thinking!
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Postby MOG » Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:00 pm

Looking good Steve.. I've used thsi method a few times for wargames models.. I thought about using it on the building on Gnotts Widgets but went for a felt roof (like a garden shed) instead.. wasn't confident about getting the weathering / colouring right.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:26 pm

I know what you mean about colouring/weathering Martin, i really wasnt sure about these roofs to start with, thinking I would come back and weather them some more, but after living with them for a few days, have decided to leave as they are (for now anyway).
It's always going to be a bit of a compromise, a tile or slate roof from a distance, looks more or less the same colour overall, as you get closer though, you start to see the variations. So do you build the model to look like it is being viewed from some way off, or from closer, I dont think there is a correct answer to that one :wink: The other thing is, do you want the roof to grab the attention, or is it part of the frame for the picture you are building, sometimes we can add too much detail to an area which we are not really intending the viewer to focus on. For the most part on a layout, although the roofs of buildings are fairly prominent (unless viewed at eye level), we dont want the viewers eye to linger there, so sometimes less detail, is preferable.
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Postby chris krupa » Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:38 am

I'm going to be awfully pernickety here but I am after all an editor that spends the day correcting English (amongst other things) and my sensibilities are being disturbed here.

People: the plural of roof is ROOFS.

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Postby Steve Bennett » Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:41 am

Corrected, seems I have had it wrong for 40 years or so :) never was any good at school.
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Postby Racing Hippo » Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:02 am

Steve Bennett wrote:Corrected, seems I have had it wrong for 40 years or so :)

As grammatical transgressions go, it's a fairly minor one.
After all, Eric Partridge himself says of it:
Eric Partridge in Usage and Abusage wrote:Rooves also was common in our early literature, and is (like loaf, loaves) consistent with the genius of our language; a writer that prefers it could not be condemned for error and hardly for eccentricity

Sheesh! Who'd ever accuse Steve (or any Gnutter for that matter) of eccentricity :?: :?: :?: :lol:

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Postby Gerry Bullock » Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:30 pm

chris krupa wrote:I'm going to be awfully pernickety here but I am after all an editor that spends the day correcting English (amongst other things) and my sensibilities are being disturbed here.

People: the plural of roof is ROOFS.

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Interesting Chris my 1993 Concise Oxford recognises the word Rooves albeit indentifying it as disputed. I guess the origin results from the common way of pronouncing roofs as rooves.
GerryB. ps My early recollection is that I've always used rooves so that goes back 60+ years :twisted:
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Postby Peter » Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:46 pm

My 1993 Webster's has both "roofs" and "rooves" as plurals albeit with a note saying that "roofs" is more regular.

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Postby dr5euss » Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:59 pm

Maybe the Saxons said 'rooves' with the harder 'v', and the Normans said 'roofs' with the softer 'f' ?

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Postby Steve Bennett » Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:44 pm

dr5euss wrote:Maybe the Saxons said 'rooves' with the harder 'v', and the Normans said 'roofs' with the softer 'f' ?


You may not be far off there George, languages are living things and do evolve as time goes on.
This gave me something to think about while driving today and i'm sure that I was taught at school, that if a noun finishes with an "f" the plural would use "ves" at the end :) . As used with hoof, calf, wolf and the like. Maybe I remember wrongly, or the thinking on it has changed over the years (it was a while ago :) )
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Postby Blackcloud Railways » Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:43 pm

Steve Bennett wrote:You may not be far off there George, languages are living things and do evolve as time goes on.


Mmmmm, unfortunately the English language seems to be devolving into 'text', or should that be 'txt'?
So the top bits of houses are now 'rfs'. :o

Ask a teenager if they know any morse code, or even what it is.
Than ask them what "_ _ _ . . _ _ _" on a Nokia phone means. :roll:

When I was a small child my "mobile" hung from the ceiling and moved in the breeze. :D

Can I get a place in "Grumpy Old Men" on BBC 2? Grrrrrrrr!!!!!!! :twisted:

I'm going to switch the computer off now and go and do some railway modelling while my blood pressure returns to normal. :wink:

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Postby Peter » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:45 am

--- .. --- is OIO
-. --- - .- .-.. .-.. ..- ... -.-- --- ..- -. --. ..-. --- .-.. -.- ... .... .- ...- . ..-. --- .-. ... .- -.- . -. -- --- .-. ... .
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Postby DCRfan » Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:07 am

Peter wrote:--- .. --- is OIO
-. --- - .- .-.. .-.. ..- ... -.-- --- ..- -. --. ..-. --- .-.. -.- ... .... .- ...- . ..-. --- .-. ... .- -.- . -. -- --- .-. ... .
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That took forever to type

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Postby Racing Hippo » Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:40 am

bobblackcloud wrote:So the top bits of houses are now 'rfs'. :o

ROFL.
Or shd tht b 'rvs'?

bobblackcloud wrote:Than ask them what "_ _ _ . . _ _ _" on a Nokia phone means. :roll:

As Peter said, that's "OIO". The Nokia tone for an incoming SMS is "... -- ..."
... =s
--=m
---=o
..=i

The first time I heard someone's phone bleeping that sequence loudly, I made a quick and very puzzled scan around to find the emergency before realising that there was a dash missing from the message:!:

bobblackcloud wrote:When I was a small child my "mobile" hung from the ceiling and moved in the breeze. :D

When I told a friend that my sister had bought our newborn a mobile, her first response was "Isn't he a bit young?!"

Ain't language fascinatin' ? :)

Oh, and Peter - you have too much time on your hands! Stop wasting it and do some modeling! ;)

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Postby michael » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:51 pm

Well with all due respect for all parties, Anglo Saxons, Vikings and Normans, the previous did sound a bit like "put that in yer pipe an' smoke it" :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby Racing Hippo » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:00 pm

michael wrote:"put that in yer pipe an' smoke it" :lol: :lol: :lol:

Presumably blowing long and short puffs of smoke :lol:

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Postby michael » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:31 pm

Puff puff puf puf puf pufff puf puf puf Chuff chuff chuff

being a steam buff an' all
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Postby MOG » Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:03 pm

Now then... seeing as we're talking about smoke... :twisted: :twisted:
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