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Postby Jon Randall » Tue May 26, 2009 8:48 pm

Looks good Colin. 8)
The size difference between the van and the planked wagon is :shock:
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Postby Colin Peake » Tue May 26, 2009 8:57 pm

Jon Randall wrote:Looks good Colin. 8)
The size difference between the van and the planked wagon is :shock:


Thanks Jon. To be fair the planked wagon is a few inches behind the layout! But does remind me, I need to get some pics of the wagons as they now stand!

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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue May 26, 2009 10:21 pm

Colin Peake wrote:I have mocked up the grounded van body based on dimensions of a 4mm scale model, hopefully this will sit OK size wise with the existing builing - haven't had the two sections back together yet!


Surely it would be easier to work from a 4mm scale drawing :lol: which I'm sure you must have one around to photocopy and enlarge. If not, give me a shout, I'm sure I could find one.

It really is amazing how different the sizes are when you put standard gauge alongside narrow, even more so with 15" gauge :)
I suppose it shouldn't be too much of a surprise really, when you consider how often standard gauge vans are used as loco sheds on narrow gauge lines :wink:
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Postby dieselwater » Wed May 27, 2009 3:57 am

It's looking good. I think when you've finished and painted the standard gauge wagon it'll look great. I don't think it will look over big. Though I think comparing it to the narrow gauge stock is an interesting feature for the layout 8)
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Postby michael » Wed May 27, 2009 4:09 am

Colin I really like the way you are able to create a sense of scale with such small modules. It allows one to concentrate on a lot of great detail in a small space then move on to the next module.

I like the idea of the feeling that a piece can be both finished and yet not at the same time.
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Postby Colin Peake » Wed May 27, 2009 12:15 pm

Steve Bennett wrote:Surely it would be easier to work from a 4mm scale drawing :lol: which I'm sure you must have one around to photocopy and enlarge. If not, give me a shout, I'm sure I could find one.


:lol: Would you belive it if I said that it was quicker to measure the 4mm scale van that was on the workbench than get up and seek out a drawing?! Of course I then had to get up and find a calculator.... :roll: The cereal packet card mock-up will be replaced in due course with a proper model, likely to incorporate some more balsa or perhaps some basswood.

Thanks to all for their comments on the extension so far!

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Postby Colin Peake » Wed May 27, 2009 8:34 pm

As promised, some pictures of the weagons for Ambassador Works in a state closer to completion.

Strapping has been added to the two open wagons, plastic strip with plastic section to represent the fastenings:

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End-on can be seen the bolt heads from Grandt Line, couple pocket from Sidelines:

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A side-on view of the flat, more Grandt Line boltheads to hold the W-irons in place:

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Just to ring the changes the two open wagons have differing fastenings!

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Now all I have to do is paint them....

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Postby Steve Bennett » Wed May 27, 2009 9:23 pm

Very nice Colin, I like the proportions.
Is that a steel rim that you have depicted around the top of the opens?
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Postby ian holmes » Wed May 27, 2009 10:43 pm

More craftsman modelling from Mr. Sandshifter.
Looks great Colin

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Postby Little Andi. » Wed May 27, 2009 10:55 pm

Fantastic - just prototypical enough to carry the "look" - yet just caricatured enough to be endearingly appealing.

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Postby Colin Peake » Thu May 28, 2009 6:19 am

Steve Bennett wrote:Very nice Colin, I like the proportions.
Is that a steel rim that you have depicted around the top of the opens?


Thanks Steve :D It's all your fault anyway :wink: It wasn't meant to be a steel rim, just a bit of 20 thou strengthening around the inside as the sides are only 40 thou and felt a little flimsy when first built. Although I do like the idea of a steel rim, so will give it some consideration...

Thanks to Ian and Andi for your comments!

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Postby dieselwater » Thu May 28, 2009 8:17 am

Your Wagons look great. Look forward to seeing them painted up. There're sure to be stunning :shock: 8)
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Postby Glen A » Thu May 28, 2009 8:21 pm

Colin Peake wrote:
Strapping has been added to the two open wagons, plastic strip with plastic section to represent the fastenings:

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Hi Colin,

Your plastic work is stunning. As always.

Two questions;
1). How do you get the wood grain into the plastic? Was it a file/rasp?
2). How do you make the little round rivet heads in the strapping. Are they cut out of another piece of plastic and glued on the top? They don't look like they have been stamped in.

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Postby chris69 » Thu May 28, 2009 10:13 pm

Hi Colin,
I have to go with Glen,how did you make the great looking Rivets?
They look fantastic as does the rest of your pike.Been following it and love the simplicity and care of detail you you create,thank you.

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Postby michael » Fri May 29, 2009 1:58 pm

Really sharp clean work on the wagons Colin, I am also curious about the rivet fastenings.
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Postby Colin Peake » Fri May 29, 2009 4:33 pm

Right, time to explain myself! :lol:

The wood grain was individually scribed onto each part, some, such as the inner sides and floor before assembly, others afterwards (but before adding strapping). I simply used the tip of my Swann Morton straight blade to scribe into the styrene, then a curved blade to carefully de-chaff the lines.

Two methods were employed for the fastenings. The round ones are slices of evergreen rod carefully glued into marked positions on the strips, then after being left to dry overnight sanded down to a common thickness (I can't slice that well!). The diamond sections were 10 x 60 thou strip cut to 1.5 mm lengths and added into marked positions as before. Steve tells me he usesthe other method for this too, but using square section!

If all goes to plan I'll be priming these tomorrow, just need to give them a good scrub first....

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Postby bluey1989 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:02 pm

Colin,

I am sure I have commented on how good Ambassador Works really is before, I am thinking of building something similar (hope you dont mind)
My first Gn15 layout was a bit of a nightmare with curves more like corners and I would like something similar to this to run my loco (with the sound) backwards and forwards shunting a few wagons about... (maybe at a show or 3)

I know you said you used corrugated card for the building finish, is this a inner and outer skin of a suitable cardboard box seperated?

Cheers

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Postby Colin Peake » Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:28 pm

Hi Andy,

Thanks for your comments, I sold on Ambassador Works some time ago and I believe it is about to change hands again - I'll be interested to see how the new owner develops it.

The card was actually purchased from a craft shop as corrugated material rather than split from a box. I have experimented with the latter and it is useful if you need different size corrugations, but this was was easier :roll:

Do let us all know how your project turns out.

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Postby JackBlack » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:20 pm

Hi Colin, I've just read the whole thread and I think you've done an excellent job with your layout and can't wait wait for more!!
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Postby JackBlack » Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:49 pm

Hi Colin again, what pack size Ferrero Rocher box was it??
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Re: Ambasador Works... Chocolate Box Micro

Postby PeterH » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:06 pm

I’ve reposted one of Colin’s photos of the Ambassador Works layout unfinished but in its final configuration of 3 modules, each about 300 mm long. Most of this thread is about the module at the far end.

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Re: Ambasador Works... Chocolate Box Micro

Postby Colin Peake » Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:40 pm

@PeterH gave me a nudge the other day and asked if I could perhaps find the original photos from this thread after Photobucket's attempts at ransom. To explain, I opted to remove all my material from that platform completely rather than live in hope that it would all go back to normal at some point, realising that this would leave a gap in many places but no worse than the cog of doom :evil:

Luckily I had almost all the pictures in low-res format and was able to recreate a couple that I didn't have, frustratingly four images appear to be lost forever, even the full res ones are not saved where they should be. Luckily two have been found in very low-res form and have been included in the relevant post.

Re-reading this thread had reminded me of some very good times and people. A more substantial reminder is the Lister, living in my display case on the last remaining section of the diorama I created alongside 'Ambassador Works':

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Postby chris stockdale » Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:02 pm

Many thanks for that Colin.

If you happen to have the time and inclination to add photos back to any other threads of yours decimated by P Bucket...

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Postby Colin Peake » Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:45 pm

chris stockdale wrote:Many thanks for that Colin.

If you happen to have the time and inclination to add photos back to any other threads of yours decimated by P Bucket...

Cheers,


That is unlikely unless I come across another cache of my low res images, which I suspect that I won't as they appear to have been missed from my back-ups on the basis I could re-create them if required... I just didn't envisage doing it in any quantity! :roll:

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Re: Ambasador Works... Chocolate Box Micro

Postby PeterH » Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:53 pm

Wow, thank you Colin for taking the time and putting in the effort to restore the photos in this thread. I’m making a layout now that uses several of your ideas from here.
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