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Postby Colin Peake » Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:57 pm

Simon Andrews wrote:Great concept Colin. I like both the mock ups and am tempted to try something similar in a number of other scale / gauges, maybe using a video box as suggested by Bob Blackcloud.


I take no claim on the overall concept, that's Mr Bennett's doing (as always!), the use of the box was a way of overcoming the first version on a card baseboard, which will get reused some other time....

As to what now gets built, looks like the i's have it, industrial it shall be! I do like Andrew's greenhouse concept but the idea is something quick and simple so there isn't the scope at this stage for lots of fine detailed plantlife. Another time perhaps? I also like Andy's suggestion of two layouts in one, but for now it's going to be a simple industrial scene, with hopefully the addition of a pipe bridge to the right hand end to frame the scene a little.

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Postby Gerry Bullock » Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:13 am

Hi Colin - the diorama looks great, however now that you've settled upon an Industrial scene rather than the Greenhouse "Estate" theme isn't there perhaps a tad too much pristine grass for a loading area :?: :wink:
By the way I collected my 49p Basket Liner yesterday and have advised my Club Treasurer of the bargain as he lives close by to the store in question.
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Postby Colin Peake » Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:45 pm

Gerry Bullock wrote:Hi Colin - the diorama looks great, however now that you've settled upon an Industrial scene rather than the Greenhouse "Estate" theme isn't there perhaps a tad too much pristine grass for a loading area :?: :wink:


Hmm... trust me, that grass isn't that pristine.... more like the run down area at the back. I must add some more vegitation in due course!

Tried to get a cheap hanging basket liner today to stock up but the gardening section in Wilkinson's was being drastically reduced :x

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Postby martin » Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:02 pm

Colin Peake wrote:
Gerry Bullock wrote:Hi Colin - the diorama looks great, however now that you've settled upon an Industrial scene rather than the Greenhouse "Estate" theme isn't there perhaps a tad too much pristine grass for a loading area :?: :wink:


Hmm... trust me, that grass isn't that pristine.... more like the run down area at the back. I must add some more vegitation in due course!

Tried to get a cheap hanging basket liner today to stock up but the gardening section in Wilkinson's was being drastically reduced :x

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Postby henrix72se » Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:41 am

Colin,

I tryed for several days now to find something at least similar to that basket liner you describe... :( Could you please take a picture of how it looks when you first bought it (if you have some leftovers..) or if you have an article nbr or equal ?

I did however find a lot nice things in the plastic plant department which could be useful. :)

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Postby martin » Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:15 am

henrix72se wrote:Colin,

I tryed for several days now to find something at least similar to that basket liner you describe... :( Could you please take a picture of how it looks when you first bought it (if you have some leftovers..) or if you have an article nbr or equal ?

I did however find a lot nice things in the plastic plant department which could be useful. :)

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looks like this Henrik:

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Postby henrix72se » Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:24 am

many many big thanks !!

now I know where to find it at least.. (out of stock) :(

a bit more info is on this page ;

http://www.choiceful.com/disprod.php?pI ... &deptId=G1

also a bigger image.

I will keep checking back on this page.

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Postby martin » Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:29 am

that's a very dark one... the ones I bought are much lighter!

Sadly as Colin said it's a very seasonal product here and most of the stores are withdrawing them.
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Postby Colin Peake » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:35 pm

Work over the last couple of days has been sporadic but has concentrated on the building to the rear of the layout.

I decided to keep with the recycled components theme for this, using corrugated cardboard, some recycled timber and supermarket pizza base!

The structure is only 20mm thick, I started by cutting two identical pieces of card the size and shape of the building profile. These had various cut-outs made in them, notably the door opening and a cut out in the rear for the wires feeding the track to go through. The two pieces of card are spaced using some 10mm timber (possibly obechi) recovered from a lightweight baseboard experiment (which didn't work!). A further layer of corrugated card backs the top section of the wall but runs in the opposite direction to add strength to the structure.

Photo lost... :(

Foam pizza base was used for the brickwork, with the brick pattern drawn on using a pencil, which embosses the foam to the right level. The corrugated top section is a ready made card sheet from a craft shop.

Doors are going to be sliding style, witha timber baulk underneath to act as a ledge for the loading dock. The doors are built up from three layers of cardboard, which is more recycled material..

Photo lost... :(

Sorry about the picture quality, the light had gone before I could get pictures this evening!

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Postby More_Cats_Than_Sense » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:43 pm

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Postby Simon Andrews » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:56 pm

I want one too :!: 8) :mrgreen:
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Postby gfadvance » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:04 pm

Always admire the high standard of your modelling Colin, everything looks so neat and tidy even in the middle of the build - no hiding mistakes under a coat of paint for you.
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Postby Colin Peake » Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:24 am

gfadvance wrote:Always admire the high standard of your modelling Colin, everything looks so neat and tidy even in the middle of the build - no hiding mistakes under a coat of paint for you.


Trust me... there are mistakes, just very well hidden :wink:

A couple of points I forgot to mention, all of the exposed card surfaces, and the bits of wood where I can get to them, were coated with 'button polish', a sealant similar (if not the same) as shellac. This toughens things up somewhat and the effect of this and the wooden framing is a very solid structure.

Also, the foam sheet scribed with bricks was cut around the brick outline at corners and interlocked, as was the join halfway along (it wasn't that big a pizza!). The foam sheet was stuck in place with UHU solvent free adhesive, and once set the gaps in the joins filled with household filler from a tube (pound shop purchase), with joins scribed back in as required. The same filler can be seen on the edges of the doors awaiting a light sanding to hide the laminations.

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Postby Steve Bennett » Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:56 am

Very nice Colin, fits the setting very well and beautifully modelled as always. I'm looking forward to seeing what you have planned for the interior, or did you just run out of black paint :wink:

Almost got me thinking about changing plans for my micro, but the track isnt in the right place :) .
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Postby Colin Peake » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:12 am

Steve Bennett wrote:Very nice Colin, fits the setting very well and beautifully modelled as always. I'm looking forward to seeing what you have planned for the interior, or did you just run out of black paint :wink:


:oops: Ran out of black paint... and I knew that if I squeezed any more out I would have far more than I needed! I think the final colour in there will be a dark grey rather than black, somehow it looks more 'murky'. There will be an element of detail in there too when the time comes.

One question on my mind at the moment is colour. I think by the closeness of the corrugations this is iron rather than asbestos, and I was originally thinking of a rusty black finish. However, part of me thinks a green finish (with rust of course) my work well. Any thoughts folks?

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Postby Steve Bennett » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:36 am

Colin Peake wrote:[One question on my mind at the moment is colour. I think by the closeness of the corrugations this is iron rather than asbestos, and I was originally thinking of a rusty black finish. However, part of me thinks a green finish (with rust of course) my work well. Any thoughts folks?


I think I would have gone for black aswell. Many corrugated buildings were painted with a bitumen based paint to protect them, which of course was black. Not so common these days, probably has some safety issues with the paint :roll:

As for running out of paint, good to hear you do have things go wrong sometimes :lol: makes the rest of us feel better :lol:
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Postby Colin Peake » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:45 pm

Black it is then.... but maybe with green doors... :lol:

Some progress made over the weekend:

The doors have a runner from Plastruct girder, and associated ironmongery from plasticard and bits from the bits box (Knightwing Shunter kit I do believe...):
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Started thinking about electrical connections as per my other thread, 3.5mm jack installed for DC input:
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I have shortened down the sole wagon, which has made a difference in proportions, which I am a lot happier about now (just need to build more...):
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Adding some detail, telephone bell (Sidelines) and bolts on the door runners:
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Timber baulk under the doorway added, distressed and bolt heads added (just blu-tac'ed in place for now):
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What it is all about, a home for the Lister:
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Progress is slowly being made elsewhere on the project, the pipe bridge now has a support for the front of the layout, guess what... there's a bit of Airfix in there!!
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Postby gfadvance » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:06 pm

:D As a lover of detail this is just getting better by the minute -

you might want to check picture " timber with blue tack" its not there? :wink:
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Postby Colin Peake » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:41 pm

gfadvance wrote:you might want to check picture " timber with blue tack" its not there? :wink:


:lol: The perils of typing and talking...

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Postby Jon Randall » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:57 pm

Looks great Colin.
I like the wagon, well proportioned.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:13 pm

Loving the detailing Colin, well thought out and very well executed.
Hmmm, that sounds like a school report, oh well, I'll give you A+ :lol:
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Postby Colin Peake » Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:01 pm

Steve Bennett wrote:Loving the detailing Colin, well thought out and very well executed.
Hmmm, that sounds like a school report, oh well, I'll give you A+ :lol:


Well it is now the weekend, so I must be going for extra credit! :lol:

Some progress with painting:
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and close-up:
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The wooden beam has had a couple of coats of Wilkinson's quick drying wood dye (which is water based), this was actually bought to try out balsa fence construction, but I digress. It has also been dry brushed with a light wood shade and a lighter grey shade to tone it down. Boltheads were picked out in paint before weathering.

The doors have had been painted with acrylics, the first coat was alot darker than this but I added more light grey into the mix for the second to 'fade' it down. Ironwork was picked out in dark grey and the worn away areas in a light timber shade. The whole door was then dry brushed with a light grey/brown mix to tone it down further, with a hint of rust on the metalwork.

Brickwork had a mid grey base, with the whole area dry brushed (well, not too dry) with a colour representing greyish/yellowish brick (I like to be different!), followed by individual bricks dry brushed to variation shades. Once dry a coat of watercolour black was washed over to settle in the mortar runs and add some depth of colour - I may add another coat in due course.

Corrugated areas have been dry brushed over the top of the corrugations with a rusty colour, followed by a dark grey, then some light grey/brown highlights. I didn't want to 'go to town' on the rusting as this is meant to be a relatively recent structure with bitumen paint on it. There is also some gunge in the gutters not visible in the pictures.

Still to do is the flooring within the building, I had left this until last as I wasn't sure whether to go for concrete or wood, but I suspect it will be the former....

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Postby Simon Andrews » Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:13 pm

WOW :shock: :!: 8) :mrgreen: Great work Colin :D The woodwork looks particularly effective.

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Postby Korschtal » Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:05 pm

I like the bashed door. I'll bet the foreman was really pleased with whoever did that on the new building.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:32 pm

Great Colin, some lovely finishing. I really like the light weathering on the corrugated, it looks spot on for bitumen paint. Looking at the overall shot, I would agree about a little more black on the mortar, but in the closer shot, it looks perfect. I guess a lot will depend also on the lighting it is viewed under.
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