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Postby Glen A » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:48 pm

Great detail scenes there Gerry.
You will be pleased to to get it finished.

I like the card players!

The challenge will be getting just the right amount of light down there so you can see all the details, but still convey that dark cellar atmosphere.

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Postby Gerry Bullock » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:09 pm

The only way I could paint the cards Steve (even the one face down - 6 of Hearts) was to use a large lit magnifier. :roll:
The lighting I've yet to experiment with Glen and you're right won't be easy.
I plan to try bulbs over each individual scene leaving the rest unlit.
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Postby Rockley Bottom » Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:32 pm

For small printed items, such as posters and street signs, I draw out at a comfortable size and then copy them, I them reduce the work on the computer to what ever scale I need and then print colour on the ink jet and B/W on the very old laser printer.
Both will take up to a medium thickness card.

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Postby rue_d_etropal » Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:15 pm

Trouble with computer printing is pixel size unless you have a very good printer. A few years ago I produced a range of station signs in various scales down to N scale, and created them in big scale, then had them printed off in photo printing shop. By getting the original size to right proportions it was possible to produce some very small images and still read them.
I hadn't thought about producing a pack of cards in small scale, now there is an idea.Probably fit on one 6 by 4 photograph :idea:
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Postby Rockley Bottom » Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:21 am

I tried not to make the original too many times larger than the finished print so as not too much detail got lost in the reduction

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Postby Gerry Bullock » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:45 pm

I tried using Playing Card originals and reducing them but the result wasn't clear and took about as long as hand making those seen above.
Moving on, the Card Desk is now installed albeit not yet finally fixed in place.

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The sink unit and wall cabinet also belong in this basement however I need some props to go with them. They have to be fitted prior to placement in basement as I'll barely be able to access area with my fingers let alone a hand. :roll:
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Postby Mark Goodwin » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:33 pm

Gerry,

I like Turner's "The Fighting Temeraire" hanging on the wall and the green oriental ldy that adorned many walls in the '70s. Details, as ever, fantastic.
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:47 pm

Mark Goodwin wrote:Gerry,

I like Turner's "The Fighting Temeraire" hanging on the wall and the green oriental lady that adorned many walls in the '70s. Details, as ever, fantastic.
Kind regards,
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Thanks :oops: :oops: :oops: But this is the 1950s Mark. Can only be one answer maybe Vladimir Tretchikoff painted two Green Ladies and this is an original. :roll: :lol: :lol:
I'll have to check with the landlord to find out from whence he acquired the painting :!:
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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:48 pm

Perhaps it's the original Gerry :lol:
Dont worry about the date, I'm pretty sure the Green Lady dates from the 30's it just had a revival as a print in the 70's.

CORRECTION : That version dates from 1950.
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The desk looks terrific now it's in situ. One thing I would add is some papers or letters in the open drawer, though I know it wont be seen :wink:
The single geeks bookend, works much better than the pair did, a big improvement.
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:45 pm

Here's the latest item in an "in progress" state, nothing glued down as yet.
The brass needs blackening first.

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Postby Gerry Bullock » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:01 pm

Here's the Cellar flaps almost finished, building items to populate the layout now that it's rather cold to work on layout currently housed in my garage.

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Postby Glen A » Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:07 pm

Great job on the details (as usual) Gerry.

Did you make the hinges?
Do they actually work, or are they fixed in one place?

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Postby Gerry Bullock » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:24 pm

Glen A wrote:Great job on the details (as usual) Gerry.

Did you make the hinges?
Do they actually work, or are they fixed in one place?


Thanks Glen, yes the hinges are hand made and the way they are constructed could have resulted in an operational flap BUT I deliberately omitted the hinge pins.
In view of the limited space between this level and that of the Pub basement below I've passed on animating them. There will be a drayman peering down into the cellar.

Apart from the auto Hawe operating between the Cider factory and the pub I already have two other animations on this layout:
The Ghost with sound effects.
The Child's Rocking Loco.
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:00 pm

Here's the finished flaps shown in the location (or thereabouts) they will be seen in on the layout - that'll be the day :!:

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This view will not be seen by public as Pub wall is at right angles to front of layout.

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In addition one of these two will be peering into cellar trying to gain the attention of the card sharpers. :roll:

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Postby Jon Randall » Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:01 am

Gnice little cameo Gerry. 8)
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Postby Steve Bennett » Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:33 am

Are you sure they are not H&S inspectors checking up :lol:
Maybe not, they would probably require a safety harness to peer down a hole like that :wink:
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Postby michael » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:54 am

Gerry you are not having enough fun...
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Nice work by the way!
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Mon May 07, 2012 4:00 pm

Just 7 weeks to its first outing albeit our annual Club Show so I'm not unduly concerned if everything isn't 100% complete providing it all works.
The three points were fitted with Fulgerex motors last week now need wiring which will be done by a fellow Club member, thataway I know they'll work. :wink:

Here's the relative positions of the cellar flaps (the drayman is directly above the three layabouts in the cellar playing cards) and the kid's ride.
After one go on that they all throw up their lunches. :lol:

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Postby Uncle Tel » Mon May 07, 2012 4:52 pm

Just seen your latest posting

Which show will be its appearance in seven weeks time

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Postby Gerry Bullock » Mon May 07, 2012 5:02 pm

Uncle Tel wrote:Just seen your latest posting

Which show will be its appearance in seven weeks time

Terry


BasildonMRC 7/8 July Terry, guess that makes it 8 weeks away!
It is scheduled to appear at Shepton (weather permitting) next February.
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Postby Uncle Tel » Mon May 07, 2012 5:31 pm

I will have to wait for Shepton Mallet in 2013

Exhibited by first Gn15 layout Ecclestone Manor at Sutton Coldfield exhibition last weekend.

The layout was very much inspired by a old friend Richard Andrews who came to see it what a nice surprise!

I think both Richard and Steve Bennett never thought I would get round to building a Gn15

Not your standard but we all have to start somewhere.

Presently in planning stage for my second Gn15 layout which will be called Chebstone Cider Company

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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue May 08, 2012 8:47 am

Gerry Bullock wrote:.... the kid's ride.
After one go on that they all throw up their lunches. :lol:


:lol: More like a bucking bronco than a train ride, just losing lunch would be good :lol:
Should definately catch the eye Gerry :wink:
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Tue May 08, 2012 11:38 am

Steve Bennett wrote:
Gerry Bullock wrote:.... the kid's ride.
After one go on that they all throw up their lunches. :lol:


:lol: More like a bucking bronco than a train ride, just losing lunch would be good :lol:
Should definitely catch the eye Gerry :wink:


Agreed, however when I started fixing the system positively to the baseboard it wouldn't work at all until I shaved of another couple of mill off the baseboard underframe. Once all was glued and screwed it now operates more sedately with less of a buck.
It will be operated from the layout control panel using a push switch.
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Wiring almost complete

Postby Gerry Bullock » Thu May 10, 2012 3:57 pm

After 3 hours a fellow club member produced this for the layout. Any more than around 4 wires and it's a "Black Art" as far as I'm concerned.

Control Panel; I did, at least construct this. :D
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Control Panel Wiring.
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Layout wiring .
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Overall control system for basement and top deck.
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There's a couple of additional connectors required which Andrew didn't have with him.
I made a mistake in using two secondhand points which appear to have been spray painted to get rust effect. One now almost OK for electrical continuity second looks as though point will have to be hardwired via motor to achieve reasonable running.
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Postby Glen A » Thu May 10, 2012 7:15 pm

Hi Gerry,

Nice panel and job with the wiring.
Pity you are having electric problems with your points.

For exhibition layouts, I almost always wire switches to do the electrics rather than rely on the point blade, even for brand new points. It may work fine when new, but after a few years of dust and grime and getting shaken up during transport it can all change.

It only takes a few minutes to add a couple of wires while you are building (and the area is clear of ballast) and can save a lot of heart ache later....


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