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Postby Bob Taylor » Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:29 pm

Because I don't have a copy of Tom's book I have no idea what the finished machine will look like. However I was not expecting that frame work etc. :shock:

Detail is excellent. I'm wondering what the next surprise will be. Can't wait.

Like it a lot.


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Postby SOUTHPASS » Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:23 pm

G,day, that is just looking so good Dave. I reminds me a lot of some of the company built tractors that were used on the timber lines here :D . Quiet often just a length of timber with a shackle chained to each end was used for a draw bar. Unless you are building a micro layout I don't see the overhang being a problem, most lines where these critters were run are out in the bush where they had a bit of room :) .
.....WARNING....
Contains images that anoraks may find disturbing.
1:24 scale 16.5mm gauge.
Yes I know it's all old and rusty, but I just model things as I see them......
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Postby steerngo » Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:25 am

A full sized 2ft gauge railcar from a model T ford has just been built by Graham Lee at the Statfold barn railway, for a private railway. Theres a picture in Narrow Gauge World mag.

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Postby David James » Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:01 pm

Thanks for the kind words, input and a few smiles guy! :D


I had a little time this morning and thought I would work on the seat.


First I built the frame for the short bench style seat.


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Then, I took some linen type material, dirtied it up good, and started to glue it around the edges of the bit of wood that I cut just shy of the frames outer dimensions.

I onlt glued it on 3 sides, then I took some cotton stuffing material, and stuffed the seat a little bit at a time until I was happy with the thickness.







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Then I glued the last end, folding it over the edge like the others.

Then a little trimming with a scissors, and some more dirty soot colored powder.

Then I made 2 small slits with my exacto, and gently pulled some of the fibers though the opening.


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And of coarse old "Gabby" had to get in to test it out, he says " It's like it was built just for me!!" I think he approves. :wink:



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Postby Bob Taylor » Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:11 pm

Outstanding work aside. It's not just me or is that last picture really funny :lol: :lol:

It could just be me then. :shock:


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Postby David James » Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:30 pm

LOL!

I had not noticed...Gabby does have a habit of washing his customary dinner of beans n bacon down with a small tin of moonshine.....this over the years has made him the worlds richest source of natural gas! Image

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Postby Dallas_M » Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:17 pm

Bob Taylor wrote:Outstanding work aside. It's not just me or is that last picture really funny :lol: :lol:

It could just be me then. :shock:


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Indeed! Fun and funny ... great details ... makes the models fun and interesting ... and the little funny bits are an added bonus! No need for a horn on this one with Mr. Toots driving! :lol:
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Postby GUTMACH » Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:06 pm

I was going to post this last night, only to discover that I did not have the photos of the Roosters.

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And another view of the Ozark Miniatures G-Scale Roosters.

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Available at http://www.ozarkminiatures.com/Scripts/default.asp

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Postby David James » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:57 pm

Gerry,I like the improvised rooster bars you built for use with knuckle couplers. ( Could you imagine if that style were used..it would take 4 men or more to pick it up to join the cars! ) :wink:


The the type Wayde posted are the type of roosters I am used to seeing.

These were used in conjunction with disconnect log cars to haul the big wood out to the mills here in the states.

Those are some nice castings Wayde.

I have a few of the things Ozark Miniatures produces and am impressed.



The rail truck has a small fuel tank mounted to the left of and slightly higher than the engine. ( Gravity fed no doubt. )

Tom drew it up as rectangular, as from the sound of it was the way it was on the prototype.

I went with a cylindrical tank as I can whip these up fairly quickly. Image



This one was made with some 1/4" brass tubing. You can see how small the chain is and why I did not use it for the tank car cover. It was perfect for this though.




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Postby gfadvance » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:30 pm

Dave,
you certainly don't waste time do you - been away for a few days and come back and a scratch built loco is well on the way :!:

Looks really good, do like the way you use rusting powders the effect you get is very realistic.

Out of interest which of the Ford Model A kits did you use :?:
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Postby David James » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:06 pm

Sometimes, I have the bad habit of taking the easy way rather then they way I really wanted to go.

Such was the case with the fuel tank.

I went with a cylindrical tank as I can whip these up fairly quickly.


Even though I like my cylindrical tank very much, it was not really what I had envisioned for this.

I wanted a rectangular tank like Tom had draw up, with one slight variation.

His has the fill spout on the upper edge centered, I made mine on the upper edge on the right side corner.


I didn't have any square tube in the correct size, so I used 2 rectangular pieces soldered together.


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I also decided to keep the fill cap removable on this one.


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There I like that better now.

Next, I need to make the mount bracket.

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Postby Glen A » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:08 pm

More incredible brass soldering work David. And on such a small item. :shock:
My efforts usually end up with big solder blobs and items that aren’t fixed together properly. :cry:

I like the detail of the ripped seat pad too. This is going to be a fantastic model when you are finished.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:02 pm

Very neat bit of soldering Dave. Not sure which tank I prefer, they both look good. I would imagine that the fuel tank would be salvaged from the donor vehicle that provided the rest of the parts for the loco, but I'm not familiar with the prototype and how it came about, so could be way off the mark.

I appreciate that Tom's drawing cant be posted on here, but does anyone have a photo of the critter it's based on :?:
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Postby tom yorke » Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:01 am

Steve,
A photo is on a website Australian Bush Locomotives (or similar)under tractor locos. It is also on a link on the Australian Logging Loco site. The URL escapes me at the moment. It is the only photo I have ever seen of this thing. Of course I had to make some changes to narrow it for 15" gauge.


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Postby tom yorke » Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:09 am

Google - New Zealand Logging Locomotives

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Postby Glen A » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:11 am

tom yorke wrote:Google - New Zealand Logging Locomotives

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Is this it?

(R W Holmes in the Rail Tractors page on the website http://www.trainweb.org/loggingz/)
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I shouldn't be surprised that it came from New Zealand (the land of weird contraptions built from No8 gauge fence wire and other assorted junk :lol: )
There are plenty of other weird and ugly looking stuff on the website too, but unfortunatly not many would scale down to 15 gauge very well.
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Postby David James » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:40 am

Heh heh heh...looks like that's the one he based it on to me!

I have not seen the proto so this is a treat!

BTW thanks for the kind words!


If you want to be a better solderer, I recommend picking up some Tix liquid flux.

I can't praise it enough....It works like Magic!!


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Postby David James » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:06 am

I worked on the mounts earlier today before work.



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Here it is set in place to get an idea of how it relates to everything else.


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Gordon I forgot to answer your question before sorry.

This is the kit I used.


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Maybe not a Model A... but I was only after an older model motor. 8)

I used this as it is a 3 in 1 kit, meaning you can build it 3 different ways which also means....there are extra extra parts!

Maybe enough for another future project? :wink:

Not to mention that if you want, you could build the rest of the model keeping the hood closed and have it on the layout as well.


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Postby Dallas_M » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:25 am

HI David --

It's a truly hideous monstrosity and it keeps getting uglier! :shock:

And, yes, I do mean that in the very best way -- looking forward to more developments. You might even make me want to solder some stuff. :)
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Postby gfadvance » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:28 am

Thanks Dave, by co-incidence thats the kit I ordered last night :)

Like Dallas you have got me looking through my bits of brass too - must try the liquid flux, maybe its like Steve washer fluid and makes the whole business easier and better.

Love the way this machine is coming together and can't wait for each installement
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Postby Steve Bennett » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:56 am

:shock: Crikey, that is a mess :) and there are 2 of them :shock: :lol:
As you say Glen, had to be from New Zealand :lol:
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Postby tom yorke » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:20 pm

Yep. That's it!! Beautifully ugly. The Model A kit pictured is one of the better kits available. Lots of extra parts for the money including bodies! In fact the telephone booth cab (left over design from the '27 Model T cab) is what I used as a cab on another conversion in the Sketchbook. It also uses the Bachmann Street Car motor block. I can just see it now -- Bachmann will discontinue this model!

You're doing a great job Dave!



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Postby David James » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:51 pm

Thanks all!

Been busy with work the last few days, so not a lot of time.

I did get a muffler and exhaust built for it, and the paint on the gas tank is drying as I type this, so there is some progress.


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I have some obligations to tend to now, but maybe later this evening I can post pics of the painted weathered tank.

I also plan on starting work on the brake lever. :D

Cheers!

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Postby dr5euss » Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:01 pm

Nice work on the exhaust 8)

Could you give some info on the soldering - I'd like to have a go but I'm unsure about wattage, which tip, fluxes etc.

Thanks :)

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Postby Rockley Bottom » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:48 am

What great modelling :!: :!: As it is based on a proto-type makes it more unreal.

Well done, love the metalwork 8)

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