A Line on the Water

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Postby DCRfan » Mon May 25, 2009 11:30 am

Nice scooter but much to mainstream. How about this mod :wink:

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Or a bit of weathering as suggested by Steve :shock:

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Postby Little Andi. » Mon May 25, 2009 11:31 am

Putting the figure there, will automatically draw the viewers eye to it, so maybe you could add a bit more to the story. Possibly a toolbox on the decking at his feet, or even a tin of paint and paintbrush


That's it Steve.......... that's exactly what I mean. story telling without words but using imagery instead, lots of little clues dotted around that tell the tale without physical explanation bar perhaps a title just to give the viewer a starting point.
Great thing is you can approach this type of modelling like Moriarty!! - using the viewers as Sherlock and Watson giving them little tit-bits and crumbs to keep their imaginations working and their observation sharp.

Perhaps I'm looking at this "way off" stage left for some people? - but it's just another method of modelling appreciation to my mind.

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Postby dieselwater » Mon May 25, 2009 11:35 am

Thanks Andi :D It is really fun being able to tell a story 8)

I may well add something else there Steve. A tool box may work :wink: or some paint :wink: or maybe a box/ container of bait :wink: :lol:
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Postby dieselwater » Mon May 25, 2009 11:42 am

DCRfan wrote:Nice scooter but much to mainstream. How about this mod :wink:

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Or a bit of weathering as suggested by Steve :shock:

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Ooh no, I couldn't do the weathering thing to my new little baby :( ... or could I :twisted: ... no, I couldn't. Maybe a touch of dust/ dirt :wink: :lol:

The side car looks fun. If I found a smaller scale VW van...
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Postby dieselwater » Mon May 25, 2009 12:52 pm

Battery Loco No 1 is taking a cruise around the waters, with a single mineral tub. I think the tub is mostly used to haul scrap these days :wink:

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Postby dieselwater » Tue May 26, 2009 3:11 am

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Battery Critter family photo :wink: :) Still need to add a few details to the middle loco... but it's getting there... 8)

I'm in the process of researching railcars for the line. If anyone has any links I'd be very grateful, thanks.

I like the look of the blue one on here:

http://www.minimumgauge.info/viewtopic.php?t=4628
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Postby chris69 » Tue May 26, 2009 4:04 am

Hi David,
what a great family of critters,quite distinct and individual.Love them all.

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Postby Dallas_M » Tue May 26, 2009 4:05 am

dieselwater wrote:I'm in the process of researching railcars for the line. If anyone has any links I'd be very grateful, thanks.


Several Gnice Gn15 railcars can be found in the Model Showcase on the main Gn15.info site:

http://www.gn15.info/-/model-showcase/

And, you battery locos look great! :D
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Postby dieselwater » Tue May 26, 2009 10:39 am

Thanks guys:

I like the look of these here. Does anyone have more details on them? Thanks :D


http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/showphoto. ... hecat=7224
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Postby Korschtal » Tue May 26, 2009 12:38 pm

Yes... They are motorised trolleys used on the Halligbahnen in north Germany. These are small narrow gauge lines to low lying Islands which can be reached at low tide. The motorised trolley in your picture looks like one of the designs made by local people for private transport out to their homes on the island- there are no roads to the islands: oficially the lines are for maintenance but the local people can use them.
There are more pictures of the Halligbahnen on the inselbahn.de site:

Dagebüll-Oland-Langeneß

Lüttmoorsiel - Nordstrandischmoor

In both cases, scroll down past the text for a gallery. I'm sure one of us in Germany can translate the odd caption if Google translate can't.

(Blatant self promotion: Westeroogeis based on the Halligbahnen)
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Postby Jes » Tue May 26, 2009 1:37 pm

Short movie of a similar railcar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EswmEdl2Sc8

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Postby Bilco » Tue May 26, 2009 2:28 pm

DCRfan wrote:Nice scooter but much to mainstream. How about this mod :wink:

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Or a bit of weathering as suggested by Steve :shock:

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A firm called Welly make a 1/60 scale VW van which might fit beside the 1/24 scooter - there is one for sale on e-bay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Volkswagen-Camper ... 39001r4196

Otherwise the post office in Woodstock has them for sale!
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Postby dieselwater » Tue May 26, 2009 4:23 pm

Korschtal wrote:Yes... They are motorised trolleys used on the Halligbahnen in north Germany. These are small narrow gauge lines to low lying Islands which can be reached at low tide. The motorised trolley in your picture looks like one of the designs made by local people for private transport out to their homes on the island- there are no roads to the islands: oficially the lines are for maintenance but the local people can use them.
There are more pictures of the Halligbahnen on the inselbahn.de site:

Dagebüll-Oland-Langeneß

Lüttmoorsiel - Nordstrandischmoor

In both cases, scroll down past the text for a gallery. I'm sure one of us in Germany can translate the odd caption if Google translate can't.

(Blatant self promotion: Westeroogeis based on the Halligbahnen)


Thanks Andy :D The infomation and photos are very useful and your models look great.

Jes: Thanks for posting the video clip. Now I really want to model one of these critters :twisted: To see it traveling through like that is irresistible 8)

Thanks Bill, the one on ebay sure is the right colour :wink:
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Postby dieselwater » Tue May 26, 2009 7:10 pm

Well, I've started... early stages, early stages :roll: Fitting it on the chassis is always fun :? :lol: I'm taking details from all the pictures I've seen so far, and fudging it together with my usual freelancing way. The cab is going to be tight as usual. The driver will be lucky to get in himself, never mind a few of his mates :lol: I may have to make something else for them... :wink:

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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue May 26, 2009 10:27 pm

dieselwater wrote:and fudging it together with my usual freelancing way.


Hmmmmm, sounds like how the real thing is built :wink: you will be counting rivets next :lol:

Looking good so far and you probably have a better idea of the design in your head, than they had for the real thing at this stage in construction :lol:
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Postby DCRfan » Wed May 27, 2009 7:18 am

Jes wrote:Short movie of a similar railcar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EswmEdl2Sc8


No it goes much to fast, very unprototypical :P :P
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Postby dieselwater » Wed May 27, 2009 8:52 am

It's coming together:

Using packaging from biscuits this time (yummy :roll: ), white strip for butt joints and foamboard for the footplate. I fiddled around with the bonnet to fit within the chassis's length. I will need to make sure I maintain easy access to the switch, so therefore the cab will remain open. Maybe with a sliding door or curtain. I really like the tyre on the front of the prototype's bonnet. I'll graduallly add details as and when... pottering on :D oh, the driver fits quite nicely, yeah 8)

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Postby dieselwater » Wed May 27, 2009 12:51 pm

"So the seats comfortable? Good. So where's the tyre going?" :lol:

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Postby dieselwater » Thu May 28, 2009 7:34 pm

A touch of colour:

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Soon to add windows, roof, cab detail, front tyre, maybe door... :D 8) I think that's it :lol:
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Postby chris69 » Thu May 28, 2009 10:07 pm

Hi David,
now what kind of a sail rig are you going to use Lateen,Gaff or Square rig?
As an old Salt the Gaff seems to be the best solution.........
Oh you have a Bonnet,my bad,that must be where the modern Squirrel cage is right?

Looks great,keep it going

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Postby dieselwater » Fri May 29, 2009 5:19 am

:lol: :lol: Chris, I had thought about a sail... but yes, it will be the squirrel that gets it :twisted:

Rusty roof plonked on the top. I wont glue it down until the cab detail and windows are complete:

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Postby chris69 » Fri May 29, 2009 5:28 am

Hi David,
very nice ,lots of character.Great roof and the body work,super.I guess I will need one like it.

All the best

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Postby dieselwater » Fri May 29, 2009 8:53 am

Thanks Chris. Front grill:

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And front tyre added:

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Postby Steve Bennett » Fri May 29, 2009 10:29 am

Really like that David, you have caught the homemade style perfectly, plus it still retains a lot of the character of the original you used for inspiration. What really works though is your painting, looks great.
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Postby dieselwater » Fri May 29, 2009 12:31 pm

Thanks Steve :D

It's coming together. I'm wondering what I should do for bogies?
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