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Postby gfadvance » Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:48 pm

Thanks Bill,

Didn't realise this layout was yours ... it one of the ones that inspired me to have a look at producing a small indoor 16mm layout.

Do you know if Brian Clarke still produces those pressed sleepers and if so any idea how i contact him?
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Postby Bilco » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:07 pm

Hi Gordon,

I've PM'd the address to you.
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Postby dieselwater » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:34 am

Wow Bill, what a smashing layout. First time that I've seen it :D
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Postby Bilco » Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:12 pm

Some progress to show for the last 10 days! First I cut up the larger pieces of corrugated iron card into sheets of various sizes, as the back-drop building has them. I touched in the edges with a brown felt tip and glued the sheets onto the new building carcass over a couple of nights.

The overall effect is reasonable, and tones in with the back-drop - the slightly lighter tones of the backdrop might suggest distance, with a little suspension of disbelief. The small sheet of corrugated card will be used for the roofing.


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The platform for the iron stairs - another Macton rip-off - was fixed in position before applying the cladding, and the stairway is just resting in position at the moment. The deck of the platform and treads of the stairs are made from the chequer-board sheet from the Italeri Truck Acessories kit.

I hope I'll be able to get more done over Christmas.

Have a good one, one and all.
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Postby JT Previa » Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:51 am

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Looking rusty and worn out - very nice! :)

Too bad you had to paint over the chrome bling of the Italeri deck plate, its like a little jewel :cry: :wink:
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Postby Bilco » Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:24 pm

Even though I've been seduced away from working on the new buildings by Welsh Ernie, I've made a bit more progress on the work on the left had side of the layout. The elevated passageway between the new building and the backscene is ready to be fixed into position - when I get round to preparing the groundwork that got torn out at the beginning of the changes - Welsh Ernie has a lot to answer for!


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The corrugated card cladding is in place, including the roof. A bit more toning down of the colours would be worth doing, so that there isn't a big difference where the walkway meets the backscene. There were supposed to be windows in the upper part of the walkway, but when I fitted them I didn't like the result, so my excuse is that they are on the other side of the structure. :roll:



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Michael suggested a louvred vent behind the new retaining wall, suggesting that there is activity behind the door into the stone base of the new building. I've come up with this, which needs a bit of grime before being glued into place.


Once I can shake Welsh Ernie off, I have the egg-box stone blocks ready to make the new retaining wall at the back of the slope, then things will progress a little bit more quickly.
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Postby JT Previa » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:36 am

Love that louvre, a story into itself! I took a quick jog through the earlier posts and photos, looks even better in retrospect!
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Postby Bilco » Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:41 pm

The recent chaos caused by the snow had one unlooked-for advantage - I was stuck at home for several days, so I could get some serious modelling done. The big job done On The Drawing Board was the construction of the stone retaining wall at the rear of the slope. The first task was to reduce several egg boxes to block-sized pieces, which was done over several sessions, so as to avoid terminal boredom.

The rather ill-conceived rock face at the back was covered in stone-work, with a couple of buttresses on the higher sections, and short sections of walling were then placed along the top of the slope and bedded into the scenery. Some vegetation has already grown along the walls.

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The elevated passageway is also in position, as is the louvred vent. Some pieces of scrap will be placed around the near end of the passageway, behind the retaining wall, to hide the black hole under it. The headroom under the passageway at the back is very limited, hence the red and white warning stripes. Safety helmets are compulsory.

The new building is now ready to be permanently fixed in place and roofed, then there will be lots of little bits to do around that area, including the iron stairway. Hours of fun!
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Postby dieselwater » Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:12 pm

Wow! Chuffing heck Bill, it looks surperb! So many Gnice touches and details. The louve, the warning stripes, retaining walls, passage way, vents... 8) Oh and a Welsh Ernie too :D
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Postby chris69 » Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:44 pm

Hi,
great job as always.It is always inspiring to see how much a little can do.
It looks so great how you rounded it out.

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Postby Colin Peake » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:34 pm

Now that does look good. Any chance of an overall view of the layout with the new additions in place?

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Postby mud magnet » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:51 pm

Everything has blended in very well. The 'egg-box' blocks look great. Watching with great interest and looking forward to seeing an overall view and further progress.
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Postby Bilco » Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:59 pm

Many thanks for the comments chaps. I took an overall view tonight - trying out the spotlights I just got for illumination, as the layout is in a dark corner at the moment.


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The layout seems to be a lot smaller now, due to closing off the left side I guess. However, it's given some point to the left side, and the chance to extend the track to complete the oval.

It's been mentioned before, but it's amazing how you can spot things in a photo that don't strike you when you look at the real thing. I have been looking at the new retaining walls and wondering why there seemed to be something not quite right. When I looked at the last lot of photos I realized that they needed coping stones - stupid really, when I have real walls outside my house with them fitted! Anyway, copings are now in place.


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The spots seem to have washed the colour out of the backscene - the colour difference between the new buildings and the backscene isn't as marked as the photo suggests. Resizing the photos definitely reduces the quality of the image as well as the size of the file!
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Postby Jon Randall » Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:04 pm

Fantastic, corner of industry 8)
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Postby Little Andi. » Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:23 pm

Very atmospheric - and VERY convincing may I add?

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Postby mud magnet » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:12 pm

Thanks for posting the overall view. Looks nicely balanced. I wouldn't be too concerned that the layout looks smaller. The placement of the buildings draws your eyes into the scene. Works for me!
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Postby underworld » Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:26 am

Very cool Bill!!!!! 8) 8) 8)
You might try bouncing the light from your spot off of the ceiling. That will soften the effect and even it out.


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Postby Glen A » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:18 pm

I like the additions you have done.
They have given it a totally different 'feel' now.
It seems more ‘closed in’; a small confined industrial area.

And now you have got half a circle, I am waiting to see what you put on the next board when you complete the loop. :lol:

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Postby Bilco » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:03 pm

It's amazing how the time flashes by - 2 weeks since my last update! I seem to have been very busy cutting up bits of plastic and sticking them in odd combinations, but at least I haven't had to throw them away when I finished.

The new building still isn't fixed in position, but all the preparatory work has been done, and it can now be stuck down.


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A pile of scrap has grown up under the elevated passage to disguise the black hole that would otherwise be visible. Now it just needs a scattering of weeds amongst the scrap. Probably none of it will be in sight when the new building is in place :roll:

In a bid to disguise the shortcomings in the construction of the elevated passage a length of pipework has been fixed along the side of it on little brackets.


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I spent days agonizing over the best colour to paint the pipe - grey, red oxide or black - but I finally got round to it, and with lots of MiG rust powder it seems about right. Someone has thrown away a brand new tyre for some reason.

Now for the new building and that outside stairway!
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Postby michael » Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:24 pm

Wonderful work Bill I really like the addition of the pipe, perfect touch!
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Postby Bilco » Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:12 pm

I almost convinced myself that the redevelopment of Wood Bros was just about complete, and took a photo to show how it looks now.


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My normal view of the layout is straight on, as it's stuck in a corner, and I squeezed around to take the photo from another angle. Oh dear! I thought the uprights on the railings on the stairs were reasonable - They Won't Do! The photo also illustrates Corser's Ninth Law of Modelling: you don't notice that something isn't straight until just after the glue fixing it in position has set!

This photo was taken with a flash, and the colour values of the new building and the photo backdrop are quite a reasonable match. Unfortunately, the flash has illuminated the area on the extreme left under the building and exposed the shortcomings there - normally it's very dark and gloomy, and gives a hint that it might go back further than it really does.

Sometimes I still hanker for the old layout, with it's feeling of openness - it seems much smaller now. It's like going back to a place that you knew years ago and finding it's all been built up and the fields have gone! Also, there was an simplicity (to borrow a phrase) about the original set-up, with the buildings just flats with printed-out brick or corrugated covering. On the other hand, there is a lot more interest on the left hand side now, and I can make the layout into a roundy-roundy if I want to. And to think I started this phase back in November just intending to plant some grass :roll:

Anyway, there is still detailing to do, and I must sort out the recipient for the tipping operation - that Unimog truck that someone mentioned might be a candidate for some butchery. I also must get some more figures in the scene - never a dull moment!
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Postby michael » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:10 am

The photo also illustrates Corser's Ninth Law of Modelling: you don't notice that something isn't straight until just after the glue fixing it in position has set!


I didn't realize it was a law!

The additional work on the layout has added a lot of extra talking points Bill, really well done :!: :!:
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Postby dieselwater » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:18 am

All the extra details look brilliant. You should be chuffed Bill :D
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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:20 am

While that pipe may have been added as camouflage it has that 'always been there' look. So does much of the rest of the place. 8)
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:41 am

Great Bill, I see nothing wrong with the railings. Just what one might expect from an old Industrial site where maintenance isn't the highest of priorities.
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