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Layout - green house Aalsmeer

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:22 pm
by dretsome
Hi All,

After finishing my RailTractor, i started to design my layout. I already had some topics in mind:

I had to be situated in the Netherlands, 1950 or so. Private narrow gauge line and a commercial line for RailTractor services.

Some aspects of this layout/scenery:
- Brick boiler house, the boiler will be heated by coal;
- green house (glass) with a brick house for logistisc (flowers & soil);
- a working conveyor belt in green house for transport flowers to the lorries;
- i'm working on a scenery-sound-option to the various locations (like Dreamplayer)

Rolling stock:
- a RailTractor;
- coal lorries;
- HaWe lorries;

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Keep you posted on the progression...if any :D

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:30 pm
by skylon
I'm liking the look of this, the plan ticks my boxes.

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:45 pm
by dretsome
Good, to show that i'm actually working on this (not only on my laptop) some pictures:

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for the surfaces i use roofmate. It is very easy to cut, just with an ordinairy knife and for the finishing touch i use sanding paper to geth it real smooth.

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Afterwards painting it and apply sand and grass (it should not be any other than what i did on my H0 layout once ;)
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:52 pm
by skylon
Nice looking grass bank.

Playmobil do a greenhouse, as mentioned elsewhere. Could be nicely adapted to your needs? They go for a few pounds on UK ebay.

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:09 pm
by dretsome
Thanks Sam i wasn't aware that Playmobil had something suitable. Not sure if it is something to use, normally i make everything myself (althugh glass isn't my favo ;)

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 10:24 pm
by dretsome
Evening,

The landscape is shaped now, next step is to paint it dark (brown/black) and start with the track.

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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 11:55 pm
by PeterH
What is roofmate ? Seems to have done the job well. Can you glue it with PVA ?

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 12:04 pm
by dretsome
Hi Peter,

Roof Mate is used in construction. It has a finer structure than ordinary polystyrene making it better to work with.

Especially the planting of grasses is useful because it's porous structure. Insert it with tweezers so that the grass really stand up.

As a final benefit, it also isolate any noise.

I use construction adhesive from Bison, but you can also use "colle a bois". Avoid using solvent adhesives.

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Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 12:40 pm
by dretsome
To show how easy working with roofmate is, applying grass from SILFLOR / Miniatur even without any glue

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Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 1:03 pm
by Simon Moore
Great advice about the roofmate, looks rather like a very dense blue polystyrene used at my old high school in the CAM machines, I'll have to get my brother to get me some offcuts before he too leaves for Uni :D

Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 11:20 am
by dretsome
the story continues...

I've taken a code 83 rail and sleepers are separated by 3. At each 3 cm i've placed a wooden sleeper.With the rail spikes i'll connect the outer rail (outside only) and then I can remove the plastic H0 sleepers and finish the job.

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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 12:28 pm
by skylon
I'd never thought of laying track like that before, must be particularly effective as the pins have something soft to go into.
Good tip on the tufts too.
Keep up the good progress.

Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 2:53 pm
by Roger Murray
Simon Moore wrote:Great advice about the roofmate, looks rather like a very dense blue polystyrene used at my old high school in the CAM machines, I'll have to get my brother to get me some offcuts before he too leaves for Uni :D


I think you will find the roofmate is "Styrofoam" looks just like what I use for baseboards.

Cheers
Roger

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 6:05 pm
by HansvdL
Hi Erik,

Your green house layout looks good. I hope to see it at a narrow gauge model railway exhibition here in The Netherlands, some time soon. Maybe at the Nederlandse Smalspoormodeldagen at the Nationaal Smalspoormuseum in Valkenburg (near Leiden), on 11 & 12 September 2010?

By the way, where do you buy your roofmate foam? Ordinary styrofoam ("geexpandeerd polystyreen" in Dutch) seems to be available in every DIY store, but I haven't found the denser styrofoam types like roofmate yet. I'd like to give it a try too. From what you've built with it, it seems ideal.

Hope to see more pictures of how your layout is progressing.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:38 pm
by dretsome
Hi Hans, (didn't spot your reply until now...)

Exhibition in Valkenburg, I do like both the museum and doing exhibitions (i've done OntraXs in Utrecht twice now (H0 in 2009 and Gauge I in 2010)).

Anyway, my roofmate supplier is Imabo in Aalsmeer. The sell these in different sizes and thickness, i prefer 3 cm.

...still working on the tracks, did some testing with the famous kick switch (i like that one) and started applying grass and bushes.

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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:44 pm
by dretsome
Oh and here is a video of my first kick-switch-attempt.

Translation "ff linksaf = turn left", "ff rechtsaf = turn right". :D

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 10:00 pm
by Les
The single blade point is great! And it clearly works well, from the video. Keep up the good work and please keep posting updates.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:20 pm
by dretsome
Hi All,

Just to show you i'm not sitting still...the weeds grow like crazy in this weather ;-) maintenance crew back on track.

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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:15 am
by Simon Andrews
Hi Erik,

Like the kick point, and the overgrown track looks great.

Simon.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:30 pm
by skylon
The loco has a satisfying 'wiggle' as it goes over the point. Looks very prototypical in my mind.
The overgrown track looks the business.
What are the figures you use?

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:37 pm
by dretsome
I´m not sure what that means "looks the business", i assume something possitive :D

These two guys come from Preiser, my only staff at this moment, besides the loco driver of course.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:43 pm
by skylon
:) Sorry, lost in translation there! Means 'very good'!

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:02 pm
by dretsome
Thanks Sam!

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:07 pm
by david colley jnr
Sorry to flip back to the ROOFMATE, but it looks very much like the rigid foam insulation used to fill wall cavity's, ceiling voids and modelling in my household.... It goes by the TM Kingspan or Extratherm. I've actually worked in the Extratherm factory and witnessed the setting up of the production line. Fascinating stuff. Anyhow, look out at your local building site as this stuff can often be found in the skips in off cuts most useful to us.

David

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 4:24 am
by JackBlack
dretsome wrote:the story continues...

I've taken a code 83 rail and sleepers are separated by 3. At each 3 cm i've placed a wooden sleeper.With the rail spikes i'll connect the outer rail (outside only) and then I can remove the plastic H0 sleepers and finish the job.

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Hi Erik, is it easy to do to remove sleepers? I've got Peco Streamline flexi track but I want the sleepers a bit more spaced out.