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Postby Bilco » Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:51 am

Now that Diema-like is finished I need a driver for it. I had hoped to buy the Schleich 4x4 driver figure and do an upper-body swap with the ELC boy, but I'm told Schleich don't produce it any more - anyone know of a source?

Anyway, I decided to adapt another Schleich figure and, as I promised Chris last week, this is what happened.


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The ELC and Schleich figures that are the starting point - an unlikely coupling. The left hand of the Schleich just plugs into the arm and the rake just comes away with it. First move is to make the Schleich 'sit'.


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I'm keeping the upper body attached for the moment to give me something to hold onto. The right hand has been cut off carefully for re-use, and cuts made back and front of the upper legs - a slice part-way through the rear and a V-cut in front. The cuts are slightly off-set vertically to leave a hinge for bending.


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The right leg is bent so that the thigh is horizontal and glued with CA in the V. The pins are there to keep the bend in place while the CA sets. Because of the stance of the standing figure the left leg needs to be repositioned, so it's been cut off and a piece of florists wire fixed into a hole drilled at an angle to the line of the thigh.


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The left leg has been fixed in position with the florists wire and CA. The leg has been moved forward slightly and swung in towards the right one, as well as being positioned parallel to it.


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When the CA is set the profile of the buttocks has been built up with Green Stuff, filling all the gaps front and rear.


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Another view of the re-profiled buttocks. Some of the material on the rear of the right thigh has been removed to get a good 'sit'.


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The ELC figure has been dismembered, but it hasn't wiped that cheesy grin off his face. I'm waiting to decide whether to use the wellies or leave the Schleich shoes in place.

Next step will be bending the knees.
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Postby Boghopper » Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:15 pm

I'm watching your dissection with interest Bilco! I did something similar to the driver of my 7mm Kent Construction Planet. Starting with a Phoenix figure, OF23 "Steam locomotive driver with left arm raised wearing cap", I amputated his legs at the knee and hip and repositioned them so he could sit with the left foot resting on the pedal. His arms were similarly chopped and repositioned, the left to hover over the gear lever and the right over the handbrake. Sadly I didn't record the operation but here are the before and after pictures.
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Re: Go Figure

Postby Imagineering » Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:51 pm

Edit.
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Re: Go Figure

Postby Imagineering » Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:53 pm

Bilco wrote:
Does my Bum look too big in green dear??


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Another view of the re-profiled buttocks. Some of the material on the rear of the right thigh has been removed to get a good 'sit'.

Not often does one get a chance to 'profile' your Woman's Buttocks :lol:
Normally, profiling is done with Chocolates & good Food.


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Postby Bilco » Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:19 pm

Thank you for the comments Chris & Murray. Profiling ladies buttocks is fraught with danger - I was engaged in some very delicate work shaping the crotch area (Edit: the model's, not mine) this morning and was subjected to some quite unnecessary remarks from Mai Laidy Waif. She hasn't forgotten the prototype research I attempted when working on Didi's derriere, and still makes me walk up stairs ahead of her :oops:

Didi's bum is best described as 'fulsome', and took quite a lot of Green Stuff to achieve. This one is more of a 'pert' design although, as the top half of the figure is due for replacement by a male one, perhaps I should use the description used by a Times reporter in an article about 'Les Trocks' all-male ballet group - their buttocks were said to be "like two scoops of icecream". :shock:

However, back to the grim reality of modelling. First step in getting the knees bent was to make V-cuts behind the knees, sufficient to get the lower legs near-vertical.


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V-cuts made quite deeply behind the knees.


The legs were fixed in the new position with CA and pins inserted just below the knee.


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More Green Stuff was used to fill the small gaps at the back of the knee.


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A rear view (for those who like that sort of thing).


The right foot has ended up strangely positioned from the original stance of the figure, so I think I'll go for the wellies after all.

Next step: sawing the lady in half.
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Postby dieselwater » Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:46 pm

Gnice work Bill. It's very useful to see how you go about reposing figures.
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Postby Bilco » Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:26 pm

A new day, a new way of slicing into my fingers! First up was the razor saw to separate the now-sitting lower parts from the lady. Once that was done the upper works of the ELC boy were offered up, and 2 problems immediately became apparent. Firstly, the lady is a bit 'hippy', so the sides of the hips had to be slimmed down to produce a boyish outline.


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Snake-hips now achieved. The legs have to take some rough handling, and the joints have held without problems.


The next problem was that the boy's puffer jacket came down to his hip level, so I couldn't just plonk him down on top of the legs, as the proportions of the figure produced were very odd. As the ELC plastic is very soft it was easy to carve away, and I tried to make him a down waistcoat with a longer section at the back.


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Still smiling in that annoying fashion. I'll have to stick a fag in his mouth to wipe the grin off his face.

The lower legs were cut off and the wellies offered up, so that the length of leg could be fine-tuned. Once that was right pegs of florists wire were inserted into the wellies and lower torso.


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The basic kit of parts for the new figure. Not much left of the Schleich now, but the gloves from it will be stuck on the end of the arms in due course.


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The parts pegged together to see how he/she looks. The pins inserted just below the knees to hold the bend are visible. On the whole the final effect isn't too bad.

Next up is gluing and filling - very boring to SBS, so I'll post pic's when it's done.
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Postby Bilco » Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:37 pm

Right, on with the show. The upper and lower body parts were glued together with CA, and then filling began with the Green Stuff. I gave him slightly puffed trousers where they enter the wellies, and made the two sides of the lower front of the puffa jacket to match the back.


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The soft plastic of the ELC figure enabled me to drill right up the arms and insert lengths of florists wire, so that the arms can be bent easily and the gloves fixed on to his arms. I also drilled down through the top of his head into the body, so that the head position can be changed and the hard-hat fixed on


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Fully booted and spurred. The white is a tip I picked up on the NGRM forum and tried - using Tippex as surface filler. It seems to work well, and sands easily when it's dry. It should be possible to stipple a surface texture if required.


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A rear view, showing that the upper body has been tilted and rotated slightly to give the figure some movement. Throughout the handling the leg joints have held firm (thank goodness) :roll:


Next step is priming and painting.
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Postby trefor » Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:16 pm

Absolutely fascinating, got to have a go.

I'll have a go on a figure first then I would like to try and modify a horse for new members new project. I guess the same techniques could be used for a horse, I'll have to try and get some horsey reference pictures.

Note to self got to think of a name for the layout.
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Postby Ken Hamilton » Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:16 pm

I love seeing a well-modified figure.
Great job, Bill!

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Postby michael » Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:26 pm

Wow Bill you have done a lot more work to modify these two figures to make a driver than you would have if you had just stuck a head onto a Sculpy body. Have you given Chris Walas' tutorial a try? it really is worth having a go.

I am not criticizing your work I think you are doing a great job. I would just encourage you to give your own sculpting a go.
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Postby Bilco » Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:22 pm

Thanks for your kind comments chaps. Ken - I followed the link to your web site and realized that you are the creator of Cranky's Nightmare, that had everybody on the Westlake Forum panting!


Right - painting finished. I primed the figure in black and decided to go with that for his quilted waistcoat.


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In all his glory - I just can't paint eyes :x


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Seated on Diema-like in front of Wood Bros door. He's a snug fit, but looks at home there.

This figure is another of the Ekerslyke family - Cuthbert, the apple of his mum's eye. In fact he's a bit of a mummy's boy, so comes in for some ribbing from the other male members of the family. His Mum insists that he wraps up warm when he is driving, and knitted his hideous orange sweater.

Didi is much smitten with him, however, and has taken him under her wing. His Mum isn't at all happy with this, particularly as Didi has introduced him to the demon weed. This is another cause of hilarity amongst the other drivers, who know that Didi is susceptible to his boyish smile (and his skin-tight jeans). She was heard to say recently that she'd like to give him a great big cuddle, and he is now know by all as 'Cuddy' Ekerslyke.
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Postby Simon Andrews » Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:40 pm

Great work Bill. The "How I Did It" IS really useful.

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Postby chris krupa » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:58 am

That was interesting Bill - thanks. I've never found the soft plastic to stick with CA so perhaps I need to try another brand. I've also not used Green Stuff as I have not found it easily available around here.

I still have a few Schleich sitting figures in stock so I haven't needed to buy any more. I saw one as part of a vehicle in a shop recently but buying the whole thing just for the figure wasn't worth it. Whether the vehicle had been in stock for some time I don't know. I obtained my figures as a special order from the local toy shop which found them in a catalogue.

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Postby Bilco » Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:24 pm

Hi Simon - glad the SBS is of interest. Chris - I've just checked with Google, and the driver figure has been dropped from the Schleich range this year. You are very lucky having a stock - I check in every toy shop I pass to see if they may have one left, and regret not snapping them up when I did see them. :x

The CA I use is Slo-Zap hi-viscosity or Vital-bond medium, both from Howes of Oxford, which is also where I get my Green Stuff - www.howesmodels.co.uk They are only 10 minutes from me, so my default model shop! I think the use of pegs of florists wire is the most important thing - I'm sure I could pull the figures apart if I was brutal, but they hold up pretty well in normal use.


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Didi and Cuddy share a quick fag under the tipping dock. It looks like Didi is making a move on him, and he is beginning to think that his Mum was right to be suspicious of Didi's intentions.
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Postby Bilco » Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:08 pm

I suppose this is really a 'Trade' matter, but it follows from the last couple of posts. Back2Bay6 have the Schleich driver figure in stock at the moment, although their web site says not many left. My order is in :D
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Postby dieselwater » Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:20 pm

Great work on the chap Bill. A very useful SBS that could be adapted to a variety of figure sources.
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Postby Bilco » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:02 pm

Glad you enjoyed the SBS David - I seem to remember the fine job you did with the large figure you did a little while ago.

I gave a bum steer (as we navigators used to say) about the Green Stuff. Howes sell Green Putty in tubes like toothpaste, but the Green Stuff comes from Boswells in Oxford http://www.boswells-online.co.uk/ Boswells are actually a department store, but have a great toy and railway department. They have the great advantage of selling plastic sections singly instead of in packs, so if I only need one of something it's a bit cheaper that way. :D
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Postby Bilco » Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:27 pm

There have been some more trans-gender goings-on at Wood Bros. The top half of the Schleich young lady with broom who is pictured in the first post on this thread has been grafted onto the lower half of one of the Schelich 4x4 drivers I bought a couple of weeks back, to make a driver for the Gmeinder-ish critter.


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Almost finished- just some tidying up of the paintwork to do. There was very little modification of either body part for this one. The lady had her head lifted and twisted to the right by the application of boiling water. Her right arm was also slightly repositioned by the same means. The gentleman's nether regions just had the legs squeezed closer together - tears would definitely have been brought to his eyes if he had still been wearing them. A little Green Stuff was needed to smooth the transition between the two halves, and the 4x4 driver also gave up his hands in the cause.

This lady is Didi's sister Isabelle Ekerslyke, known to all as "Izzy" for some strange reason. She's a shade boyish around the hips but, if the graffiti in the works gents toilet is to be believed, she is fully female in all other respects :oops:
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Postby Moronguhl » Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:27 pm

Good work Bilko - I love that you've given all your drivers names and characters! Mine so are are mostly 'headless body with raised arm 1' etc, but I love the idea of characters and a believable story for your line.

You wouldn't get the P4 chaps doing it! :D
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Postby michael » Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:19 am

Great description Bill, made me smile.
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