Skipping With Ernie

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Postby Bilco » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:54 pm

In the long pauses in the Eimco painting saga I thought I would try to do something a bit more fun - out-and-out freelancing. Some of you may remember that I bought a skip body from the Smallbrook stand at MOMING. At the time Mr. Bennett wondered what I would do with it - as did I.

It had sat on my modelling table for a while, and the thought occurred that I might be able to do something with a UE Inspection Car that included a skip. I dragged one out of my depleted stash and took the body off, and spent quite a bit of time trying to think up ways of marrying the two together. Finally, I realised that my ideas would result in a "cut off all the bits that don't look like ..." photo that would just show a pile of yellow plastic sawdust.

Then my eye lit on the rest of UE - the motor and base plate. I realised that I could use that as the basis for something without the body , so that was tossed in the bits box and the trusty scalpel and razor saw were brought into play. I cut off all the lumps and bumps from the base plate to give a flat top and clean rectangular shape, before sticking random bits of plasticard onto it.


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The DCC electrickery was all cut away and the wires shortened and joined. As I needed the footplate to be a bit longer and wider I stuck 1.5mm plastcard strips around the edges. I've added another piece to the left-hand end, as I discovered that the motor unit sits about 1.5mm off-centre where I've stuck it.


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The underside - I left the sideframes in place, just sanded off the more protuberant bits. More 1.5mm plasticard strips are stuck between the sideframes and base plate to stop the motor unit flopping about. Once the new sideframes were in place a few delicate gobs of superglue ensured that everything stays where I want it


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The current stage. A 1mm plasticard footplate on top, full length sideframes of the same stuff stuck to the underside, and some Plastruct channel stuck to the sides to hide all the joins. Next step is buffer beams front and rear, and then some detailing can start.

After the rather staid and serious following of the prototype of the Eimco, this is much less stressful. It might even look OK when it's finished.
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Postby Artizen » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:56 pm

Love your double overhead whotsits!
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Postby Bilco » Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:09 pm

Hi Ian - I'm afraid the double overhead wotsits have been covered up now -

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I had thought of building an engine block to go over the motor and gubbins, but chickened out and made this engine cover instead. You may recognize the louvred hatch, Steve? - it's just resting in approximately the right place to see how it looks.



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The other side. I thought a grill would be nice on this side, but made it circular just to be different. It'll be backed with mesh in due course.



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The underside, showing the added weights - more defunct plug pins.


So, things progress slowly - more detailing to do, but it's getting there.
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Postby Glen A » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:41 pm

Making good progress there, Bill.

What is the brand name of the axle box castings you are using?

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Postby Bilco » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:51 pm

Hi Glen - That is a very good question! They are O gauge white metal tender axlebox castings that I bought a couple of decades ago, much hacked about.
If I could remember whose they were they would probably want to disown them!

I have all sorts of old white metal castings, some from my 009 days. The mounting for the pressure gauge on the Eimco is a casting from the Peco GVT loco kit, and I built that in the early 1980s!
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Postby on30critter » Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:14 am

I am not sure what scale axle boxes you are looking for but I found these 4mm scale. http://www.mmrs.org.uk/forsale/forsale.htm
And this one in OO scale. http://www.modelrailwayimports.com/prod ... D=0&q=axle

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Postby Bilco » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:18 pm

I've been much occupied with other things for the last ten days, but I've managed to get the odd 5 minutes modelling in here and there. So, progress to date:


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The machine now has a chequer-plate footplate - nickel-silver from Metalsmith, meant for 10mm scale (whatever that is) but seems to look OK. Den the Driver stands proudly by, as if he had anything to do with it.


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The other side. The skip sits close to the engine casing but does clear it ...


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.... even when the skip is tipped.


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A quick look with the skip removed. The exhaust still needs trimming to length.

Still lots of details to work at - I've made buffing block/couplers but the engine cover needs some hatches etc, and I guess I'll have to give the driver a seat and some controls. Perhaps that's what Den was hovering around to tell me ....
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Postby Catweasel » Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:34 pm

Is that all that's needed when removing the gubbins? The red and black to the green wotsits?
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Postby Bilco » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:00 pm

Hi Catweasle,

Yes, that's basically it. When you get rid of the DCC block you have 4 wires

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and you join blue to red and white to black. However, the blue and white wires are just attached to the green wotsits and I removed them as I wanted to have as little as possible sticking up. You have to move the heat-shrink tubing to get at the join, but it can be re-used.

It still runs, so it must be OK :D
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Postby Catweasel » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:46 pm

Excelllent,thank you. I also got rid of the red and white wires for the same reason. I'm waiting on some bits from YKW so I can start building locos. Bit of luck I'll be able to fit Ernies derrieire to them.
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Postby Bilco » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:25 pm

Progress to report, at last. It's had a liberal sprinking of rivets, and a few controls stuck about the place. The seat is done, too, and it all seems to fit together.


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The brake lever is one of Steve's with a few bits stuck on.


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All that can be seen of the exhaust is the end of the pipe, showing that I need to blacken it up a bit.


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The louvre side. The lever on top of the engine compartment is supposed to be the throttle - I couldn't think of anywhere else to stick it (No suggestions required, thank you very much).

It's had a coating of the Mr Surfacer primer, then car spray black, and orange from the art shop range of acrylics. I copied the colour scheme from Keef's 'Skippy' - http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=4046 It looks a garish at the moment, but I'll get to work with the weathering liquids to tone it down and grubby it up.
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Postby chris69 » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:26 pm

Hi,
very nice.love the little bugger

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Postby RoGNer » Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:26 pm

Wow - looks superb!

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Postby henrix72se » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:46 pm

Great Job !!

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Postby Cross Kitter » Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:38 pm

Looking really great :D :D :D

Now, where did I put those spare Ernies :roll:
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Postby Adrian » Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:20 pm

Gadzooks Bill

You have, indeed, produced a work of art.

I would be proud to call it mine, ( if it was ).

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Postby Geeky Gecko » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:54 pm

That looks great.
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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:05 pm

Bilco wrote:The machine now has a chequer-plate footplate - nickel-silver from Metalsmith, meant for 10mm scale (whatever that is) but seems to look OK.

It is either 1/32 or 1/35 scale - I'm too lazy to look for certain right now.

Anyway, good looking project.
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Postby Bilco » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:01 pm

Right, another project to declare finished - just got it done before the New Year.

The main job was to tone down the near-fluorescent orange. I didn't use the weathering liquids in the end, just my usual watery acrylic slapped on and wiped off, plus a liberal dusting with the MIG powders and the graphite stick run over the edges.

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Due to some arcane photographic quirk, my subtle rust tones don't seem to show in these pictures.

And to think, it all started as a way to use the Smallbrook skip bucket I bought on impulse at MOMNG this year :roll:
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Postby Little Andi. » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:08 pm

Utmost apologies Bilco ....... I've somehow managed to miss this thread till now.

But I've just spent some time catching up and reading it through front to back - great stuff.
I really enjoy this kind of "phantom" project - and I think the skill is in making it look believable - which you've done admirably. Thoroughly enjoyed the SBS and the finished job is a credit to your modelling abilities and style. ............... Smashing!
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Postby Bilco » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:33 am

Many thanks for your kind comments, Andi. It's been a fun project, and interesting trying to think of how a prototype would be put together, then making it in plasticard!

Anyway, here's a shot of Ernie-with-a-skip-on-top, on the tippler on Wood Bros, taken during the Christmas running session.

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I'm not sure how the driver escaped - over the flat wagon, perhaps? I shall have to make a suitable driver - it will need to be a slim person, as it's a tight fit between the back rail and the gear sticks.

Happy New Year!
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Postby dieselwater » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:00 pm

Hi Bill, fantastic modelling, I love the engine detail such as the vents and mesh. The skip looks spot on too 8)
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Postby Bilco » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:45 pm

A Flickr album of lost PB photos of my version of Alan Keef's 'Skippy' ...

https://flic.kr/s/aHsm7Afz62
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Postby southpier » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:42 pm

another "appreciation" vote for updating these pictures. thank you.

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Postby Bilco » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:30 pm

Some more photos have been added to the Flickr album.
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