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Postby michael » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:58 pm

Wonderful touch Brian, I too would love to see a little photo tutorial of how you did the birds. they look smashing.

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Postby Sir Briand » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:27 pm

Thanks for all the kind words guys. I will see what I can do about bird making tips. Meanwhile I have been been busy adding a page on Upton and one on painting large figures to my site. The figure ones have appeared here but the Upton ones are all new taken today. Eventually these two pages will have my signature large pages linked to the images but this is a very time consuming business, and right now it is supper time. :D :D :D

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Postby Sir Briand » Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:28 pm

A busy weekend. :lol:

Have uploaded to my website a revised page on Upton using a new format that is much easier to build and, I think, view. This uses a new set of pictures not seen here. Have used the same format for the Larger Figure page as well. Just to complete things a modelling Winky page was added as mentioned under the other Winky thread.

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Postby AndyA » Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:33 pm

You're right, Brian, a nice easy-on-the-eye read. Some neat photos - I've spent ages trying to get eye-level shots that work, even on my own layouts.

The white washed brick inside the buildings is the outside brick paper printed in black instead of colour.


You know, if I had actually started glueing the paper onto the woefully delayed brick kiln, rather than just have it lying across the top gradually sagging as the paper ages, I might have had to kill you for that. :) Oh, to have enough tips that I could hide a really good one in descriptive text halfway down a page. :mrgreen:

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Postby Simon Andrews » Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:02 pm

Nice update Brian. Upton has developed into rearly attractive layout.

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Postby Sir Briand » Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:59 pm

Steve Bennett wrote:That cupola just cries out to have a clock in it Brian, fairly common in this part of the world so everybody working around the yard could always check the time. ......


Well I found a suitable clock in Google Images. :shock:

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It is at Ruyton Hall in Shropshire and the photo comes from an article in the Shropshire Magazine.

Showtime tomorrow and the cupola/turret has to be finished. :roll:
:?: "What is the siding on the turret made from". :?:

It looks as though it should be slate but I can't see any vertical lines. Also the sizing of the various bits and pieces is odd.

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Postby Racing Hippo » Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:09 pm

Sir Briand wrote:Showtime tomorrow and the cupola/turret has to be finished. :roll:
:?: "What is the siding on the turret made from". :?:


That's lapped lead, that is. Just sheets of the stuff folded around and tacked into place.
I expect you could achieve the same result with very thin plasticard.

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Postby Gerry Bullock » Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:15 pm

Sir Briand wrote:It is at Ruyton Hall in Shropshire and the photo comes from an article in the Shropshire Magazine.

Showtime tomorrow and the cupola/turret has to be finished. :roll:
:?: "What is the siding on the turret made from". :?:

It looks as though it should be slate but I can't see any vertical lines. Also the sizing of the various bits and pieces is odd.

Thanks guys. I am sure someone will come up with a solution.


Could well be lead Brian, reason for the irregular sizes is easy - it was made by the well known Builder Bodgitt & Flitt a member of the Guild of Master Fastmen :twisted: . Here to today long gone tomorrow :lol:
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Postby Sir Briand » Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:18 pm

:D Thanks guys :D :D

2 excellent answers within 15 minutes pointing in the same direction :!: :!: :!: :!:

Now to uncork a suitably wrapped wine bottle :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Sir Briand » Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:49 pm

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The clock face is a Photoshopped version of the original. Again thanks for the info on the siding. Easy when you know what you are modelling.

Now, will someone go to Ruggin Manor and nick their windvane for me. :twisted:

Anyone know, if Richard doesn't see this post, where he got his from?
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Postby Peter » Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:15 pm

It looks a real treat Brian :D
The coupla, and the whole layout too.
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Postby Sir Briand » Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:09 am

Well, sort of got inspired and decided to make my own windvane after finding some suitable sized Slaters letters. Cobbled things up from brass wire and a bit of tubing, a w.m cockerel of unknown origin, solder and ACC to hold it all together.

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Definitely a *** AO rating. :D :D :D
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Postby Steve Bennett » Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:30 am

Looks great Brian, the weather vane really finishes it off, wish I had thought of that :) . The cockerel looks like one of Andy Duncans from what I can see of it.
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:19 am

Certainly adds some class to the building Brian 8) . how does it affect transportation :?:
Have a great show, I'm sure Upton Whent will draw crowds :wink:
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Postby DCRfan » Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:56 am

Magic. Your a craftman.

I trust you are using super strength Super Glue with all that lead and WM up on the roof otherwise it may all crash down into the pig s**t below. :twisted:

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Postby scott b » Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:37 pm

I hope you take a compass to the shows, You know 50% of the guys there are going to point out "why thats not north" I know that because I`ll be the first one to say it in a rather loud know it all kind of voice. :twisted:
Very good work Brian. The layout has an excellent feeling of time and place and all the recent little additions have added wonderfully to the atmosphere.

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Postby Sir Briand » Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:02 pm

Gerry Bullock wrote:Certainly adds some class to the building Brian 8) . how does it affect transportation :?:
Have a great show, I'm sure Upton Whent will draw crowds :wink:


The whole turret assembly is a unit Gerry. It is removable and gets packed safely away in its own little box.

Scott, the vane subassembly can be rotated. Mutters to self "Now I have something else to do on set up". :roll: Come to think of it, it is actually correctly orientated. Just did it itself. :shock:

Paul, the pigs are all house trained 8) and the glue is strong. Hope you have as successful a time as I am so far.
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Postby Sir Briand » Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:05 pm

Had a good time at the Brampton Show. It is held at the fairgrounds in one of the large buildings that normally is used for showing animals in. There was a large pile of pretty fresh byproduct outside the back loading door not too far from where Upton was set up. OK when the door was shut but otherwise.... :roll:

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Not exactly a warm friendly place like the venues in the UK that have been posted here before. A pretty steady stream of onlookers though.

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A surprise visitor was this HO set that someone produced and insisted on running on Upton. Amazingly it actually went around without too much grumbling. Paul, the driver, was quite pleased. The loco is the Lafayette, an early B & O one. It is a 4.2.0 and I was intrigued by the potential of the Bachmann single driver mechanism much to the horror of the owner.
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Postby scott b » Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:25 pm

I dropped by the Brampton show on Sunday between delivering my son to sports. The proximity to a large pile of horse s... only made Brian`s layout more realistic if not a bit overwhelming, actually it has not been as hot as last fall so the smell was not as overpowering as the 2005 show.
I have had the good fortune to be able to see first hand Brian`s layout develope. It`s quite surprising to see how small changes can alter ones perception so much. The small addition of the clock feature has changed the look and focus of the layout. Originally the large expance of the roof would draw ones attention up and somewhat to looking beyond the building, now the clock face and vane(pointed in the correct orientation) bring your focus forward and back to the courtyard scene it really is interesting the difference one small addition makes. Chris Creightons layout was there as well you can see it and the floating head of him just behind it, that layout is so full of little details and small scenes that people stand and look at it for ages just to see everything, talk about packing alot on a small footprint.

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Postby DCRfan » Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:28 am

Great scene and the visiting train looks just the part for an estate railway.

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Postby Colin Peake » Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:30 am

Sir Briand wrote:Not exactly a warm friendly place like the venues in the UK that have been posted here before.


I don't know Brian, looks very similar to the venue used for the 'Festival of British Railway Modelling' at Harrogate this year, that was a part-time cattle shed on the Yorkshire Showground. But I agree, not as cosy as some of our town halls and other smaller venues!

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Postby Sir Briand » Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:13 am

Big show coming up in a weeks time in Ottawa. Had a lot of little things to do before then and no panic. :D But...I had forgotten we have to go up to the family cottage this long weekend to clean up and close up. :cry:

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Did get the eavestroughs up on the stable block and downspouts in on the end of the big building and the stables. See this one needs adjusting at the bottom end.

Had fun trying to figure out how to hang the doors. Came up with gluing a strip of thin card down the face side which will then be glued on to the side frame of the doorway. Probably not original but I am pleased with the effect and stability of the hung door when it gets fixed in place.

The white spot on the corner of the peat/hay/straw wagon is where I had to file the corner back so it would clear one of the big doors and had to pare back the edge of the door. Now clears by about 2 mm. :roll:

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Postby Steve Bennett » Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:12 am

It's surprising how much difference the final detailing makes to the layout, those doors transform the whole appearance of it. Nice job on the rain water gear, it looks like it's always been there. A sure sign of a good layout is when it looks interesting without any trains on it, you certainly have that, it's looking great Brian.
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Postby Sir Briand » Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:01 am

Steve Bennett wrote:Nice job on the rain water gear, it looks like it's always been there.


Thanks Steve. Aluminium tubing and some S & D 7mm sewer pipe castings from the treasure chest. :D
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:40 pm

Looks great Brian. I like the doors which reminds me I need to make two for the Machine Shop entrance :!:
As my buildings are Industrial I'm planning to try some Doll's House 1/12 scale guttering and downpipes on the basis that Industrial is much larger than Housing components. I'll tell you whether I boobed later :lol:
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