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Postby michael » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:24 am

Looking great Brian, Ive been starved for some good looking model work now for at leaste 2 weeks, it's a pleasure to see some fine work again.

Looks like I have a lot of reading to catch up on.

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Postby Gerry Bullock » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:16 pm

You've certainly held Gnatterboxers' and Visitors' interest with this thread Brian. Quite away ahead with hits 8) unless, of course, someone Gnows better :lol: .
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Postby Sir Briand » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:05 pm

Thanks Gerry. I know this thread seems to have taken on a life of its own. :shock: I have enjoyed working on it. It has been a great motivator. The image taking has helped tremendously in getting the atmosphere I wanted to create, and you have only seen a small fraction. :lol: This has been something I have done throughout my modelling career. Digital has made a tremendous difference in fast correction of errors. No more waiting around. :) It is only a few steps from layout to iBook, plug the camera in and another entry in "Back in Business..." appears.

Well, hinges and hardware have been added to the doors. Again I am surprised at the difference these seemingly minor details make to overall look. Well worth the fiddly, diddly effort. :roll:

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Took this for Steve as he liked the drainpipe so much. 8) Unfortunately the stable is in not the best focus but I think the door bolts and the catch on the upper door are visible. My other half is an ardent horsewoman and tells me I need a second set of bolts on the bottom of each door as many horses can undo the top one. Saving those for later.

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See what I mean about checking for errors. I could have sworn the little light at the top of the gable was straight. :cry: This, and its partner on the other side, are Grandt Line products. I was going to put in some holes for the doves a la Steve image a few pages back but decided that was going to be too fiddly a job. The boring gable problem finally solved. :D :D

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Upton has come a long way since the above first appeared :!:

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Now it is time to get started on getting ready for travel to Ottawa on Friday. 500 km and rain. Aaaarrrggghhh. :cry: :cry:
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Postby Sir Briand » Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:50 am

Well the drive to Ottawa was OK. 6.5 hours for 484 km (300 miles) including stops and most of it not on a motorway. Just virtually no traffic and very few towns. Came back via Motorways. 6.5 hours and 540 km (335 miles) but not good for the coronary arteries. :( The crow definitely flew the preferential route :!:

The show was good and Upton got a fair bit of interest. Opposite me was a small Z layout built in a tent at the Kandahar Canadian Army base and a small N one built in Bosnia. The builder is an army medic. Wandering around, and regaling Cheryl with wonderful tales of daring do was one of the few surviving Battle of Britain Hurricane pilots.

Back home I decided to put some lighting into Upton as the wonders of the workshop are virtually invisible. This involved taking the power up into the attic of the stable block from the input area at the back. To bury a short length I had to dig a short trench. Dead easy with the Poly Instafil that I used. :lol: :lol:
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Now try that with Polyfilla or plaster and you could be :cry: .
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Postby Sir Briand » Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:12 am

Egad :!: I hadn't realised it was such a long time since I did anything to Upton W. Still ahead of DCR Fan though - 13845 to 13236! That won't last for long with a new layut coming along. :cry:

With the big Xmas Train Show coming up this weekend thought I had better add a few things. Ian H is not alone in doing this. Always fun. :)

I put some interior lights in the stables, workshop and in the big building. Makes a subtle difference. The horses now visibly have some haybags hanging up and a feed trough. The water bowl is just around the corner of the door and is not visible. :wink:

Warner has a distraction in his workshop. :roll:

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Much better than topless ladies on the wall. 8)

Think Scott will approve of this addition when I see him at the show. Can't wait to see his casting efforts. Could be catching.
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Postby ian holmes » Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:38 am

Sir Briand wrote: thought I had better add a few things. Ian H is not alone in doing this. Always fun. :)


Much better than topless ladies on the wall. 8)



'Tis great fun to add the details. Nice touches Brian.
Though I'll beg to differ about the topless ladies on the wall :D


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Postby ian holmes » Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:38 am

DOH!! Hit submit twice :roll:
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Postby Steve Bennett » Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:51 am

Nice additions Brian, I agree, even after a layout is supposedly finished :?: it is nice to come back and add on further details and really good fun. This is especially so on a layout which goes to shows on a regular basis, the reaction you get from people who have seen the layout several times before when they spot something new, is one of lifes great experiences. I'm sure you know what I mean.
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Postby ian holmes » Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:19 pm

Actually having looked at this scene again it looks like Warner is on for one of lifes great exeriences too... :wink: :wink:
"Well young missy I've let you ride the horses what are you going to do for me"... :twisted: :lol:

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Postby Gerry Bullock » Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:40 pm

ian holmes wrote:Actually having looked at this scene again it looks like Warner is on for one of lifes great exeriences too... :wink: :wink:
"Well young missy I've let you ride the horses what are you going to do for me"... :twisted: :lol:

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Well now, I'm quite good with curries and stiff brushes; the Horses love it - fancy a session :roll: :shock:
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:43 pm

Before you ask :lol: :lol:
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Postby chris stockdale » Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:13 pm

Gerry,

I'm not swallowing that no matter how much lager I've had.

It looks more like an item from a BDSM catalogue (just guessing, you understand, never having seen such a thing :shock: :lol: )

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Postby More_Cats_Than_Sense » Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:49 pm

Some of the cats are quite partial to a chicken tika masala :D
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Postby DCRfan » Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:47 pm

No, no, no, your all reading the body language wrong. She is saying 'Now if you didn't spend so much time playing with your little train ....

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Postby Sir Briand » Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:04 am

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Mmmm. I wonder what they are looking at :?: :roll:
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Postby More_Cats_Than_Sense » Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:29 am

Horses & trains?

:twisted:
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Postby ian holmes » Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:49 pm

Sir Briand wrote:
Warner has a distraction in his workshop. :roll:

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Young lady: My youre so... defined
Warner: You can be that way too with a Sir Briand paint job..."

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Postby Sir Briand » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:53 pm

ian holmes wrote:
Young lady: My youre so... defined
Warner: You can be that way too with a Sir Briand paint job..."

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Sorry Ian. She had one. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I realised the other day when I was looking at her that a fine black line around the edge of the dress would give the all important Type A "Edge Shadow". This is just visible above.

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A closer view shows this better. Also put ones in the hair and between the fingers. Also gave her some eyes, eyebrows and some teeth. :D Before she looked flat - well most of her did but even here a discrete accentuation of shadow helped. :wink:

I used a fine brush and some black artist acrylic. Try putting some along the edges in any figure and I think you will be surprised at the difference it makes in appearance.
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Postby ian holmes » Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:00 pm

Interesting.
Being tucked away in the shadows there didn't do the paint job justice. Not to my eyes anyway.
Much more noticeable when the figure was more prominently lit

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Postby Sir Briand » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:42 pm

I forgot to say that Belle came with a standard Preiser flat paint job. I have had her for about a year trying to sum up the courage to give her a blacking. This was not going to be easy because of the way she is sitting. As I said, it was only the other day that :idea: and just painting on thin edge shadows was the obvious solution. :shock:

I agree that her many talents are sort of hidden where she is. Just leaves more to the imagination and I can tell you lots of that was being exercised over the weekend. :lol:
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Postby DCRfan » Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:31 am

With all these fillies hanging around the stables I'm starting to wonder just what goes on up in the big house :wink:

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Postby Sir Briand » Wed May 21, 2008 1:28 am

Well Paul, quite a lot has been going on in the last eighteen months!

Upton continues to travel around to the local shows as part of the Narrow Gauge Madness gang and promotes Gn15 along with Chris Creighton's layouts. Look forward to the fall when folk put their pedal bikes away and Scot B can get back on the circuit.

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The main development has certainly been the proliferation of Listers thanks to Scott B's skill with the resin.

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I was looking at the layout with a passerby this weekend, at yet another show, and realised that having one brand of make of loco, and of a make that really existed, does seem to give the layout an interesting look of conformity, and reality, for want of a better word, even to the uninitiated.

Something else that came out in conversation with people was the concept of static dynamism :roll: .

For example, the drivers of the diesel and covered Lister are definitely static because both feet are firmly planted on the deck. The driver of the petrol Lister has his right foot resting on the accelerator. This suggests the possibility of motion. Is he ready to accelerate and move off if stationary? If moving is he going to go faster or slower?

The figures, even though they are standing still, are positioned as they would be as if they were interacting with others or resting from sweeping. Even this fellow is positioned as if he is talking to the horse. The passengers in the coach are definitely static. But then they are the sort who would be aren't they.

Come to think of it the animals aren't static either.

Have fun with this line of thought. I certainly am :D .
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Postby DCRfan » Wed May 21, 2008 8:57 am

That truly is looking amazing. You are to be congratulated.

But you really should arm the gents in the passenger coach with shotguns so they can go after the quick brown fox :P
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Postby Panda » Wed May 21, 2008 9:27 am

I really like all those Listers. The people look really effective aswell, and now you mention it just the placeing of limbs helps. My dad has done all my figures on my layout (and I think he followed your article?)
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Postby Steve Bennett » Wed May 21, 2008 11:31 am

Looks like it must be a national holiday from the number of people around the place Brian :wink: good of the owner to put his collection of Listers on display for the public to view.

If you are looking for ideas on what to add next, one thing that does seem to be missing, is stable girls. At the moment the workforce seems to be mainly male, but having grown up around stables, the fairer sex are usually much more in evidence, or have they got the day off for the holiday :wink: .

The layout looks great as always, nice to see some new pics, thanks.
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