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Postby martin » Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:35 pm

Thanks guys. Some of your comments are too kind!

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marter1229 wrote:Layout of the year! Nicely done.
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I totally agree with that !

How did you build this very nice steam loco ? It's a Bachmann 0-4-0 Porter, I guess.

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yes it is a Bachmann Porter. All I did was cut the cab down and clad it with styrene sheet. The spectacle plate is from Smallbrook Studios, I was going to cut my own but I think it's worth supporting businesses that actively support Gn15 and it was only a few pounds.


The Chimney/Stack was just extended with a little bit of tube

Generally I've never been convinced by these porters being bashed to Gn15 as they are just too small... even though there have been many nice examples posted... however as the Elves are so short it kinda works for me in this instance
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Postby Nevadablue » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:31 pm

How did I miss out on all this goodness? Very nice stuff Martin, I love all the foam work and the LOCO! I'm getting a couple of the little Bachmann Porters after Christmas. They are just too neat. :D
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Postby Chris18 » Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:50 pm

You could also use a Bachmann 0-4-2 Porter:
http://www.brifayle.ca/Folders/3gredfox/3gporter.html
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Postby Nevadablue » Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:37 pm

Exactly... I'm getting two 0-4-2 locos (minus cabs) from a famous friend :D in early January. I'm going to take it one step further than your link pic and make the cab large enough for 1:24 people to get IN, I hope. These will be narrow gauge shuttle engines for my to-be logging and mining operations.
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Postby martin » Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:10 pm

Chris18 wrote:You could also use a Bachmann 0-4-2 Porter:
http://www.brifayle.ca/Folders/3gredfox/3gporter.html


It's not the length that doesn't look out of proportion. It's the boiler, cylinder and stack size. Take a look at this photo by Juergen:

http://s42.photobucket.com/user/Kraehwi ... n.jpg.html

Porters are fine if you are creating a "miniature" 15inch railway but if you're wanting to create something that represents a working railway a bash that doesn't change some of the other proportions would lead to a massively underpowered loco. That's only my view of course and i'm a strong believer in throwing convention out of the window and building the locos and railways you want to build... forget what others say!

Still thats not to say they are not attractive locos
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:04 pm

Loco No:13 in Juergen's photo is my conversion of a Magic Train subsequently modified by Juergen.
Magic Train Locos are somewhat larger to start with than Bachmann/ Hornby HO/OO conversions to Gn15.
Having said that I agree with Martin that the On30 Porter is only realistic as a miniature conversion.
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Postby martin » Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:04 am

A quick video of some of the animations...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVLjV85nS24

Trains running quite fast in this video! It might be better if I get film at night as the quality isn't great and the video fails to capture the lights in the day!

Some more photos:

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Rudolf rolls out onto that dodgy looking bridge again! I'm probably almost always going to regret not having "re-sleeper-ed" the track on this section, at the time I was so focused on finishing the thing for this year I thought it was a corner I could cut without regret... mistake!

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Comet is greeted by an elf

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And again from another angle. One of Steve's Heywood-style vans on the train here.
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Postby Chris18 » Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:34 am

Wonderful video ! Thanks.
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Postby KEG » Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:28 pm

Porters are fine if you are creating a "miniature" 15inch railway but if you're wanting to create something that represents a working railway a bash that doesn't change some of the other proportions would lead to a massively underpowered loco.



Bachmann 1 : 48 scale 0n30 Saddle Tank Porters are perfect for Christmas Gnomes.
I really enjoyed following this thread about the building of a window display. A real crowd pleaser.

Most Gn15 models are built in about 1 : 24 scale. So they are very much larger:



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Smallbrook Studio COLUMBINE with a tender to carry the Lipo and Deltang RC receiver, compared to a Bachmann 0n30 loco.


Have Fun

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Postby martin » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:01 am

KEG wrote:
Porters are fine if you are creating a "miniature" 15inch railway but if you're wanting to create something that represents a working railway a bash that doesn't change some of the other proportions would lead to a massively underpowered loco.



Bachmann 1 : 48 scale 0n30 Saddle Tank Porters are perfect for Christmas Gnomes.
I really enjoyed following this thread about the building of a window display. A real crowd pleaser.

Most Gn15 models are built in about 1 : 24 scale. So they are very much larger:



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Smallbrook Studio COLUMBINE with a tender to carry the Lipo and Deltang RC receiver, compared to a Bachmann 0n30 loco.


Have Fun

Juergen


Thank-you Juergen.

Also you photo really does illustrate the issue.. the top of the Porter's boiler is barely the height of the Smallbrook!
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Re: A Christmas Window Display Layout

Postby martin » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:03 am

Well I had hoped to share some photos of an almost complete loco for the railway... it will have to wait as my.gn15 is down for me and I can't upload photos.

Instead a new video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nURaEKFWwM
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Re: A Christmas Window Display Layout

Postby Chris18 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:52 pm

Another great video. I really like this layout. :D :D :D
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Postby Chris18 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:20 pm

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The Bachmann 0n30 loco is definitely too small for GN15! :lol:
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Postby Nevadablue » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:20 pm

Chris18 wrote:
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The Bachmann 0n30 loco is definitely too small for GN15! :lol:


I don't want to derail Martin's thread any further, but just watch for what happens, probably about the end of January or early February. I don't get the locos until mid January. There will be a couple running in a Gn15 layout. :D
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Postby Chris18 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:32 am

Nevadablue wrote:I don't want to derail Martin's thread any further, but just watch for what happens, probably about the end of January or early February. I don't get the locos until mid January. There will be a couple running in a Gn15 layout. :D


We're waiting for a new topic about these locos ! :D
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Postby martin » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:31 pm

Nevadablue wrote:
Chris18 wrote:
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The Bachmann 0n30 loco is definitely too small for GN15! :lol:


I don't want to derail Martin's thread any further, but just watch for what happens, probably about the end of January or early February. I don't get the locos until mid January. There will be a couple running in a Gn15 layout. :D


Don't worry it's all good discussion!

As it happens I've started work on another Porter. it's another 0-4-0 and meant as a back up to the existing engine. I recalled that Backwoods do a number of Porter conversion kits and one in particular does a lot to beef up the standard loco. Their side tank conversion kits replaces the small low Porter boiler with something much bigger.



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You also get a heap of extra parts with it so I bought it and a Porter from ebay

I doubt very much i'll finish it for Christmas bought have made a start on it. As the next photo shows the bigger boiler and it's higher placement on the frame does make a big difference... even if the tanks are a bit small. I probably ought to beef up the cylinders too...

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I'm really tempted to use the chimney/stack with the big spark arrestor though it also looks nice with a spare Smallbrook harlequin chimeny I have in my bit box.

I'd like to make it look a bit like a WW1 Alco with hoods over the cab windows
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Re: A Christmas Window Display Layout

Postby Nevadablue » Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:33 am

Nice Martin! I didn't know about the conversion kit, but some of what it does is on my list of modification ideas. :)
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Re: A Christmas Window Display Layout

Postby martin » Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:44 pm

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Disaster strikes! Rudolph has a chassis problem. He's jumping around and generally not behaving. I never did finish the second porter in time for this year so i'll need to get down to the workshop!

The layout came out of its packing crate two weeks ago. Two of the Elve's servos were blow and so were replaced, some of the lighting was also upgraded.

I didn't get chance to extend the line or repaint the bridge having spent so much of this year on our garden railway... however we already have plans for a new window display for next year!!
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Re: A Christmas Window Display Layout

Postby rue_d_etropal » Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:02 pm

Martin,
it is not just you, this year has just flown past, so finding time to fix anything is not easy. I never like fixing things I have made, as I don't like repeating things, yet I don't really mind fixing other things. Probably because to fix other things I have to take them apart, and discover how they work, which is new to me.
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Re: A Christmas Window Display Layout

Postby matt » Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:21 pm

Superb I love it


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