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Postby Si » Fri May 30, 2014 8:43 am

Apologies if it's been asked before - had a quick search but couldn't quite get it to work right

Idea for a new Gn15 layout requires copious amounts of corrugated iron clad buildings. My LMS doesn't seem to stock G scale corrugated iron plasticcard sheets despite having it in many of other scales. Anyone know where I can get some cheaply...or indeed, how I could make it easily and cheaply?

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Postby backwaterscotland » Fri May 30, 2014 9:01 am

One method is to use a paper crimper with thin card - I used it with embossing foil successfully as well. Details here : http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=8610

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Postby rue_d_etropal » Fri May 30, 2014 9:11 am

Some corrugated packaging is about right size, if only need to see one side. You have to peal off paper outside carefully, but if you can get it it is cheap.
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The cheap way!

Postby chris69 » Fri May 30, 2014 4:02 pm

The cheapest way to make the sheet!
I call it the "corrugator"

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The result!

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About $15.- in the craft store. Will last for ever.

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Postby Uncle Tel » Fri May 30, 2014 6:05 pm

Yes I bought one of the machines seen in the last post for about a tenner in a craft shop in thevUK (not Hobbyworld) but they may well sell them.

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Postby rue_d_etropal » Fri May 30, 2014 7:21 pm

I am sure Plastruct(USA?) did a 1/24 scale corrugated sheet, but can't find it now, but I did look on eBay and found Arcane scenary had some plastic 1/24 scale sheet
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CORRUGATED-SIDING-PACK-OF-2-SHEETS-G-scale-1-24th-Scale-LS97405-/400707222749?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item5d4c02fcdd
On close inspection it might be square section, but I am sure there is some traditional curved corrugated sheet out there.
You have to remember that only a very small part of Plastruct range available through shops, and there is a lot more available direct. Looking at some of the products it is obvious they are manufactured by a range of well known companies.

Found this from USA

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JTT-SCENERY-97405-CORRUGATED-SIDING-1-24-G-SCALE-2-7-5-x12-SHEETS-JTT97405-/111205189360?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item19e45886f0

This is the Plastruct corrugated sheet
http://www.plastruct.com/Pages/OnlineProductDetail.lasso?-op=%27eq%27&CCode=PS-26


Finally have a look on Back2Bay6, ID: 5PP12013 EMBOSSED PLASTIC SHEET - PLAIN CORRUGATION, G/16mm scale white, embossed plastic sheet of Plain Corrugated Siding. 15" x 15".
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Postby Kevin » Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:37 am

A good free source of large scale corrugated card is the sleeve placed around take away cups of coffee from Starbucks, etc.
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Postby tom yorke » Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:03 pm

What most people don't realize is the fact that corrugated sheets came in several different spacings. Many photos show buildings with two different sized spacings on the corrugated sheets. O scale sheets are fine for G scale with a tighter spacing - which is purely prototypical. Many years of my own research have shown this to be true.
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Postby KEG » Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:59 pm

I think, most people look at the protoypes or at least pictures of it, before starting with modelling.

Some years ago, I bought some larger sheets, about 1 Square foot, plastic corrugated iron in the UK at a shop called Garden Railway Specialists.

Today we use a Fiskar Crimper and thin copper foil.

My friend Karl W. simply cuts up suitable tincans for his roofs.

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I believe he simply leaves them outside for a year or more to get them rusty.

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Postby Si » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:11 pm

Ah, the size I was after is standard south Staffs 1970s farm building spacing. No idea what spacing that is...ought to go measure some...but if the take-out coffee cups look right I think that I will try them.

Oh, and thanks for all of the suggestions!

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Re: The cheap way!

Postby Willow Creek Traction » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:16 pm

For me they always start square but then get crooked using that - what am I doing wrong?
chris69 wrote:The cheapest way to make the sheet!
I call it the "corrugator"
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Re: The cheap way!

Postby MT Hopper » Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:39 pm

Willow Creek Traction wrote:For me they always start square but then get crooked using that - what am I doing wrong?
chris69 wrote:The cheapest way to make the sheet!
I call it the "corrugator"
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The only logical causes would "seem" to be the paper itself is not true
or the rollers themselves are not paralell true.

Just a thought.

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Postby chris69 » Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:48 pm

OK,
I had similar issues when I first started using the tool. After making
sure the card-stock or plastic was cut at a true 90,I placed the edge
IN THE GROOVE of one roller and carefully started, guiding it in the process.
Happy crimping!

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Postby Nevadablue » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:20 am

What Chris said helps a lot. I use my 'corrugator' for roofing and siding.
For material, I use disposable oven trays. The thin aluminum is perfect. Some kinds have shapes already stamped, I cut the sizes I want and then use a wallpaper roller to flatten it before corrugating.
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Postby KEG » Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:35 am

Alumnium trays sound like a very good idea. Any pictures by chance?
What kind of paint do you use for aluminium?

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Postby chris69 » Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:22 am

Hallo Juergen,
I used the tray and the paint was generally the cheap stuff from the home improvement store. Grey or brown primer. And then the Rust Stuff for
"Patina"
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Postby Artizen » Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:47 am

I have been playing with this product which appears to be really good and controllable on almost any metal.

http://www.vintaj.com/products/proddsp. ... h=VPK34827
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Postby Nevadablue » Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:19 pm

I haven't painted any metal yet. The pattern in the oven pan, when flattened out, looks like galvanizing. The first pic has strange camera patterning in it, odd. Anyway, I have had success with bending the stuff around a curved object too, like shown with the masking tape roll. Also, note the ridge cap. This metal is soft enough to bend like that without distortion. Gotta finish the little building one of these days. It is 1:24 and meant to be a 'bunk house' for my little people. :D

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Postby Artizen » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:53 pm

Looking good! Nothing beats real metal to represent real metal in this scale!
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Postby Nevadablue » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:52 pm

Thanks! It is really fun to work with. I found a couple more pics, one showing the texture of the material before flattening and the tools I use. The wall paper roller works perfectly for flattening the metal.

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Another with one of the little people and an alien looking on.

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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:12 pm

Nevadablue wrote:The first pic has strange camera patterning in it, odd.
http://www.ishootshows.com/2012/04/09/u ... otography/
What Is Moiré?
In essence, moiré occurs when two patterns are overlaid and result in a new, third pattern. With digital photography, these artifacts result when the frequency of detail in a scene exceeds the sensor’s pixel pitch and ability to resolve “real” information.
Moiré wasn’t an issue with film because the photo sensitive grains in film are arranged in a much more random, organic way.

And on here http://photo.net/portraits-and-fashion- ... rum/00SL2g look at comment by Matt Laur, Feb 04, 2009; 09:47 a.m., he says something my non-computer geek mind would have never thought of.
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Postby Nevadablue » Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:20 pm

:lol:

My pictures have enough patterns without the camera adding moire. :shock: [/b]
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Postby david colley jnr » Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:05 pm

I don't know if this helps, but we have just purchased some corrugated iron for the new engine shed and the spacing is 3" with a depth of 3/4". What is of interest is that it is cut to suit your sizes, we needed 9'. This will mean that the side will go on quicker and there is no joint to worry about...
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Postby Artizen » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:22 pm

The subject of corrugated sheets is very broad. The material was originally produced in single sheets at a factory and shipped to the building site. This usually meant a sheet size of around 6 feet x 3 feet for easy of manual handling by the builders. Regional size and corrugation variations come into play depending on the manufacturer. Then came the revolution of creating multiple shapes on site with a large portable rolling mill so now I can order gutters, ridge caps, corrugated sheets, etc to any length (max 9 metres) which is called long-run. This material is infinitely stronger and easier to work with in our climate with summer cyclones but makes modelling a bit more intense as you should really do some research into the historic uses of the material for your area and era. It's a bit like barbed wire - the variations over the years are amazing!
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