A tentative toe in the water

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A tentative toe in the water

Postby Boghopper » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:12 am

After a lifetime (?) of 009 modelling and a longish diversion into 0-16.5 I decided to dip my toe into the rarified pool that is GN15.

I was spurred towards this decision by a desire to enter a critter in the Dave Brewer Challenge at Expong this year and to use a different scale. So, with a chassis from an American switcher, which runs really well, I made a start.

The first picture shows the initial card mock-up to get the feel for, what is to me, an enormous size. I was quite pleased but realised the cab was too narrow. So, after modifying the dimensions, I've started on the sides, using coffee stirrers as I want it to have a very home-made, woody feel. So far so good.

I don't think I'll build a layout for it so may well sell it after the competition.

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Postby Chris18 » Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:04 pm

Found on another forum. Hope that helps.

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Postby Boghopper » Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:08 pm

Somebody pinched my idea! Or did I pinch theirs? Thanks for finding that Chris. Can you post a link to the site it was on?

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Postby Chris18 » Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:26 pm

Boghopper wrote: Can you post a link to the site it was on?

Yes I can ! But it's a french forum.

http://us.leforum.eu/t8494-Un-reseau-en ... ilexpo.htm
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Postby Nevadablue » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:30 pm

I like that! I'll be stealing the wood cab idea for my latest strange creation. :D
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Postby Boghopper » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:51 pm

Thanks Chris, my French isn't up to much but I enjoyed the pictures. I really like Rocamador's critter and although mine's a similar format, I'm hoping to produce something a little different.

I'm not sure whether to make it a battery loco or go for IC. Any suggestions?
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Postby rue_d_etropal » Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:20 pm

centre cab locos suit Gn15 very well. I built a cardboard one a few years ago, it nicely covered the Lima motor. I think Steve had one in his range, and there is one on the 40cm gauge Brickyards museum line in Brittany.
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Postby Boghopper » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:16 pm

Quite a bit of progress today. Not much to report about the construction method. Basically different width coffee stirrers and white wood glue with a piece of folded card for the roof. I've still to decide on what sort of ironwork to use but I think it's retaining the feel I was trying achieve.

I don't think this is new move, away from 009. I've no plans to build a GN15 layout. If this critter turns out as well as I hope, I'll be offering it for sale.

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Postby Gerry Bullock » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:36 pm

Looking good Chris, by the way there's already 5 of this type in the Loco Shed.
With all that wood you Gneed to beware of Greater Spotteds. :twisted:
So little time, so many ideas!!!!! GerryB.
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Postby Boghopper » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:42 pm

Thanks Gerry, I promise I haven't been peaking lately but I will take a look later.
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Postby Boghopper » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:30 pm

I'm keeping a weather eye out for Greater spotted and Green Gerry.

I've just had a look through the first page of the Engine Shed without coming across a similar outline. Can you recall the names/builders of any of the locos like mine?
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:47 pm

Boghopper wrote:
I've just had a look through the first page of the Engine Shed without coming across a similar outline. Can you recall the names/builders of any of the locos like mine?


Chris just search 'Cab' restricting search to Loco Shed.
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Postby Boghopper » Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:01 pm

Thanks for the pointer Gerry. Interesting to note there aren't any other timber bodied centre cab locos there - I think. However, they've given me some ideas for detailing.
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Postby chris stockdale » Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:57 am

Chris,

If you think Gn15 is big try 1/12 scale. You might like the loco that Jez built in this thread:

http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t= ... hlight=jez

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Postby Boghopper » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:00 am

That sure is big Stockers! I remember following Jez's thread and being very impressed with the quality of his large scale modelling.
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Postby Boghopper » Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:42 am

rue_d_etropal wrote:centre cab locos suit Gn15 very well. I built a cardboard one a few years ago, it nicely covered the Lima motor. I think Steve had one in his range, and there is one on the 40cm gauge Brickyards museum line in Brittany.
What chassis is that?


Sorry Simon, Just realised you asked about the chassis. Not sure of the make but it's this one:

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Postby Chris18 » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:10 pm

Very nice critter. Well done.
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Postby Boghopper » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:27 pm

Thanks Chris. I've just been experimenting with making hinges from the foil tray that dog food comes in. Seems to work quite well.
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Postby Boghopper » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:06 pm

Well I think I've gone as far as I can with the construction of the body. As the card roof represents roofing felt, I've glued a couple of battens on each side to make it look more like a shed.

Hinges on the door and the tops of the sloping hatches are made from the foil tray that dog food comes in. This is how:

A piece was cut, 6mm x 5mm. Using the bluntish end of a small chisel I pressed a groove in the centre of the reverse side. Turning it over, I pressed another groove, either side of the central one, thus forming a raised section. To form the screws I pressed four dimples with a rounded spike on the reverse side then gently flattened them on the front. This was repeated six times. The hinges on the lids were bent slightly then glued in place and the those on the door fixed flat. Finally a spherical map pin was used for the doorknob.

At the moment the body is a push fit on the chassis and may remain that way, perhaps with a little help from blu tac or double sided tape. I'm still undecided about buffers and couplings. All suggestions considered.

Also, I'm wondering how to get a weathered paint finish. There is, I think, an existing kit for what is called an 'Outhouse' loco, which has a lovely weather worn patina which I would like to achieve. What I may do is paint it with a mixture of thinned brown and silver and when the paint is dry, dry-brush with another colour. Again, any thoughts?

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Postby Boghopper » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:23 pm

It seems the 'outhouse' kit I mentioned is a Tom Yorke kit based on a 1953 Swedish prototype, originally battery powered but re-engined several times. I see his has an IC engine but I think I'll stick to battery power. However I may add a bit more detail, perhaps a light and a bell.

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Postby Simon Andrews » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:32 pm

Following your efforts with interest.

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Postby Boghopper » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:41 pm

Thanks Simon. As it's new venture/scale I'm wandering in the dark to some extent so it's nice to know I'm going in the right direction.
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Postby demaine22 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:36 am

You know what is next Chris. Gnine. Then you could combine your 009 and G scale interests in a whole new way.

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Postby Boghopper » Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:06 am

Oh no! Not another shift in scale! :( I think I'd better finish Compass Point first. I do like your work though and it's very tempting. :wink:
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Postby demaine22 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:33 am

Only a small shift in gauge Chris, you could stick a KATO under something...use an N chassis o build a flat wagon on...so so simple....
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