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Postby Simon Moore » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:21 pm

This scale looks great, I must start a micro G9 layout, but were to put it, there might be sopace between the part-built gn15, 09, 16mm and 2 00 layouts... :roll: . G9 seems the perfect scale for another micro layout.

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Postby ian holmes » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:23 pm

Simon Moore wrote:his scale looks great I must start a micro G9 layout, but were to put it, there might be sopace between the part-built gn15, 09, 16mm and 2 00 layouts... :roll: . G9 seems the perfect scale for another micro layout.


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Postby dr5euss » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:23 pm

Sorry to be oppositey (?), but I was wondering if people had ever modelled broad gauge in the same way narrow gauge is modelled?

Such as using O scale on G gauge track, OO on O, or N on OO?

Thanks,

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Postby ian holmes » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:25 pm

dr5euss wrote:Sorry to be oppositey (?), but I was wondering if people had ever modelled broad gauge in the same way narrow gauge is modelled?

Such as using O scale on G gauge track, OO on O, or N on OO?

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Postby dr5euss » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:30 pm

:lol: , I know what you mean :)

It did occur to me though that as OO chassis are and common, it would be easiest to model in the scale of N, and use the gauge of OO. If you couldn't work that small, you'd have to work in OO and find more pricey O gauge chassis.

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Postby Simon Moore » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:49 pm

I've just remebered this loco I saw last year at Lytham Motive Power Museum, it is a petrol mechanical of 7.25" gauge and for me at least it just oozes modeling potential. :D It is quite wide for the gauge and the running plate is nearly square in shape as it is also quite short. I'm now quite glad that I took the photograph!

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Postby ian holmes » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:56 pm

Simon Moore wrote:I've just remebered this loco saw last year at Lytham Motive Power Museum, it is a petrol mechanical of 7.25" gauge and for me at least it just oozes modeling potential. :D


Oooh :shock:
I can feel it oozing all the way across the Atlantic... :D

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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:09 pm

Simon Moore wrote:I've just remebered this loco saw last year at Lytham Motive Power Museum, it is a petrol mechanical of 7.25" gauge and for me at least it just oozes modeling potential. :D


It certainly does have potential, I really like the way it has a well used look to it, unusual in the smaller gauges, they are usually pretty clean. That is inspirational :) thanks again.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:12 pm

ian holmes wrote:I wonder if we'd ever find anyone modelling in Gnine(1:20.3)?


Well I have been playing with 1:20.3, just one of the options I'm exploring. Here's the neglected tender loco with a 1:20.3 figure sat in it.

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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:27 pm

dr5euss wrote:Sorry to be oppositey (?), but I was wondering if people had ever modelled broad gauge in the same way narrow gauge is modelled?


Dont even want to think about this one :) you might find this site of intrest George http://www.broadgauge.org.uk/index.html
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Postby ian holmes » Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:04 pm

Steve Bennett wrote:Well I have been playing with 1:20.3, just one of the options I'm exploring. Here's the neglected tender loco with a 1:20.3 figure sat in it.



Is that Bob Symes driving? :D

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Postby ed » Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:03 pm

dr5euss wrote:Sorry to be oppositey (?), but I was wondering if people had ever modelled broad gauge in the same way narrow gauge is modelled?

Such as using O scale on G gauge track, OO on O, or N on OO?

Thanks,


Here isa nice link from a dutch broadgauge builder.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~djmuider/
Select Kingswear (also in English)

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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:14 pm

ian holmes wrote:Is that Bob Symes driving? :D


Yup, sure is, it's an old photo, he was younger then :lol:
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Re: FirstGnine kit?

Postby DCRfan » Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:11 am

Steve Bennett wrote:I wasnt going to share this yet, but couldnt resist. After a weekend of feverish activity, last night I put together what I believe is the first kit in G scale which runs on 9mm gauge track, Gnine as Ian has christened it. Built around a Bachmann Plymouth mechanism which should give good, reliable running. Not based on any particular prototype, but not quite got a home built feel to it either, so I guess it would have to be termed freelance :) like a lot of miniature stuff. As you will see, this is tiny, it is only 57mm long, 27mm wide and 43mm to the top of the hood. Anyway, a few quick pics of the first test build, more details and pics with a proper paint job over the coming days.



You wicked man. G 15 or 9. :?: :? It looks great.

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Postby Steve Bennett » Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:27 am

DCRfan wrote:You wicked man. G 15 or 9. :?: :? It looks great.


Thanks I think Paul :) not wicked really, well maybe a little bit :)
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Postby DCRfan » Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:57 am

Given all the renewed interest in Gn9 before the 'I invented this new scale' claims begin I must share a page with you.

It is taken from a booklet on model railway electronics projects published by Ken Stone in 1990 in Australia.

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In case it is too difficult to read (the original was only printed on newsprint) he modelled in 1:25th scale using 9mm gauge track and ran HOn2 1/2 rollingstock as a miniature railway.

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Postby Steve Bennett » Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:22 am

:lol: Thats neat Paul, just goes to show, whatever you think up in this hobby, you can be sure someone has been there before. I have to say the Peco Tram kit, does make a nice loco for a real minature with a ride behind driving car. Not totally convinced by the little Roco truck behind though, bit too small for my tastes. If the local model engineers club looked anything like this pic, I might just be tempted to go along :lol:
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Postby Catweasel » Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:37 am

I found this animal on Severn Lambs site. Huh?
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Catweasel wrote:I found this animal on Severn Lambs site. Huh?

Ideal for a fast line?


Well it looks fast, I wonder if it is :?: If a JCB can break the world speed record for a diesel engined vehicle anything is possible (Ian pointed this out to me last night)http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/5273540.stm
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Postby Catweasel » Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:37 pm

I wouldn't the train would be that quick.It looks like it's been designed for some futuristic theme park.All show and no go. Fantastic achievement for JCB though.All British engine and design as well. Next time a JCB holds you up on the road,ask if he's left the turbo at home.
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Postby shortliner » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:20 pm

Did anyone see the interview with the Wing Commander? It did the record run in 5th gear (it has six) and the wheels were at the limits of adhesion - they are looking for someone to make new Tires for them. Also it did the 11 mile run on one gallon of diesel - his normal mode of transport does 48 YARDS to the gallon! - mind you it does go considerably faster!

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Postby Steve Bennett » Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:43 pm

Thought I would post a couple of pics that were taken for fun in an off group discussion, they might help getting a feel for size. First pic shows the new baby Gnine loco alongside it's larger Gn15 cousin:
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Secondly and I find this one more surprising, next to an On9 loco, which has exactly the same footprint, the width and length are the same, but the height difference is very obvious, I'm really amazed at the contrast.
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Postby DCRfan » Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:52 am

I have this 7.25 gauge railway in my favourites. A very nice bogie diesel and a couple of boring kettles, a Shay and a Forney.

http://www.frolin.net/mmgs/srcl/index.html

I'm not into the scale wagons but the locos are very nice.

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Postby Steve Bennett » Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:58 am

Yes, thats a really nice set up, thanks for the reminder, it was good to have another look. Their own site is also worth a look http://www.srclry.com/

Keep it quiet, I quite like that little Forney :)
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Postby Alexanderrainer » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:36 pm

Wiping my eyes! Am I right or wrong: is that lovely baby Gnine running on 9mm? Possibly I was sleeping a bit too long here. Somebody may wake me up.
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