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Postby Dallas_M » Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:59 pm

Hi Jon --

Neat little layout! Here's my feeble attempt at "sketching" something that I would try:

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I like the "see thru" effect of the open arch ... and wonder if cutting the ends of the hedge a bit and dropping the topiaries might add to that effect ... creating a "wall" that isn't too solid and thus further softening the look.

The tiny green blotches further out from the arch could be additional little bushes or mini topiaries or something to continue the overall shape of the arch without the solid mass of the hedge.

For what it's worth ... my gardening expertise = zilch :lol:

Look forward to seeing what you end up doing!
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Postby Jon Randall » Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:18 pm

Oh yes, I like it Dallas cheers :D
I'd nearly decided to take the topiary off the hedge.
Good to see some Gn15 items appearing on your website, here's to it expanding 8)
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Postby Jon Randall » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:20 pm

Well I liked Dallas's idea but I was faced with making a symetrical shape which was curved both in plan and elevation. After a few false starts and dead ends I made up some hardboard templates. and then cut the polystyrene to these.
First plan wise.
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Then after carefully clamping the elevation, shown here half way through cutting out the arch.
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Then I rough cut perpendicular to the larger front template. I then filed the ends so they ran alog the radii.
This is how it looks placed in position.
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I am now waiting for the paint to dry so I can flock it.
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Postby Dallas_M » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:54 pm

Hi Jon --

Thumbs up! I like the way this looks ... from this side, there's a "peek-a-boo" effect ... viewer gets a glance thru the arch and betwixt the topiaries to see what's going on ...

When the layout is the other-way-round, then it becomes a nice back drop ...

In any case, the curves and "softness" of the open areas seem to compliment the round design ...

And when viewing from either "end" of the shed, this becomes a nice peripheral detail ... with the soft edges offering a nice contrast to the angular construction of the shed ...

Geez, that's a mouthful of babbling nonsense! :lol:

I should have just stopped at "Thumbs up! I like the way this looks." 8)
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Postby foswaldy13 » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:59 pm

Dallas, Are you sure you didnt go to architecture or some other kind of design school? You sound exactly like an Architecture professor. That is the type of language they use when discussing a design.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:51 pm

Thats better Jon, has a much better balance, will look forward to seeing it all green now,

As you have dropped the Peacock from the design now, why not put it in a pot. You could then have it around the side of the shed, as if it is being worked on, or even have it on a flat wagon, as if it was being transported to another part of the gardens.
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Postby Dallas_M » Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:31 pm

foswaldy13 wrote:Dallas, Are you sure you didnt go to architecture or some other kind of design school? You sound exactly like an Architecture professor. That is the type of language they use when discussing a design.


Well, I've been a "visiting guest" at a rather nice art school that taught "Old Master's" painting techniques ... to the point that they stretched their own canvasses, covered them with rabbit skin glue (pan to Bugs Bunny running away) and primed them with white lead ... I do NOT have the "magic touch" or skills for this style of art ... but at least have a glimpse of how it's done! And always have had friends who are skilled in various arts ... another opportunity to look behind the scenes ...

Background in publishing, design, etc ... where "composition" is always an enjoyable challenge ...

Regarding the professors ... I may be incapable of "lucid" speech much of the time ... but I can always "babble incoherently" with the best of them! :wink:

Short version: I think I have some knack for design and composition ... happy to share my thoughts or ideas on a given item ... for what it's worth ... sometimes more useful than others! :roll:

PS -- Jon, count me among those who LIKE your sculpture ... last time I was in Paris, I skipped the Louvre and went to the Pompidou and Picasso museums multiple times ... think the piece is a great touch for the little layout. :D
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Postby route29 » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:11 pm

Looks great! :D
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Postby Simon Andrews » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:59 am

Jon, your perseverance with the hedge and statue has paid off. The pizza is looking good :D

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Postby Jon Randall » Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:33 pm

Thanks all.

Here's last nights and this mornings work.

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The brick laying was a lot easier than I thought it would be once I'd set out the outside with heavy straight edges.
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Postby Jon Randall » Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:05 pm

And this afternoon's work :D

The hedge is finished :!:

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Gnow don't go changing my mind :wink: :lol:
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Postby More_Cats_Than_Sense » Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:34 pm

Looking Good Jon :D


I like it :D :D :D
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Postby Jon Randall » Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:18 pm

Cheers Barry 8)

I think I'm starting to go a bit :twisted: this evening I made a greenhouse :roll:

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It's soldered together 0.5mm brass wire and some fine brass mesh with a sandwich bag cover.
Sorry about the photo but the sun goes down before midnight :lol:
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Postby Dallas_M » Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:55 am

Jon Randall wrote:The hedge is finished ..... Gnow don't go changing my mind :wink: :lol:


Gnot gnecessary to change! Hedge looks great and gnice to see the details shaping up. :D
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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Sun Apr 12, 2009 1:37 am

Jon Randall wrote:I think I'm starting to go a bit :twisted:
And this from a man already doing G9
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Postby foswaldy13 » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:59 am

Jon Randall wrote:Gnow don't go changing my mind


I think I would make te hedge just a bit taller....... :lol: Ok, ignore that, I was just kidding. It looks wonderful.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:12 am

Thats a big improvement Jon, the proportions look pretty good in the pic.

Liking the details around the back of the shed and might have to steal your idea for the greenhouse :wink: Ideal place for the water butt as well. Will be watching that area with a lot of interest, might even prompt me to get back to a certain neglected project :lol:
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Postby Jon Randall » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:15 pm

Cheers all, Happy Easter to all.

Dallas_M wrote:
Gnot gnecessary to change!
Phew :D

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And this from a man already doing G9
Oh yeah :!:

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I think I would make te hedge just a bit taller....... :D
:P :lol:

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might have to steal your idea for the greenhouse :wink:

Go ahead Steve, cast it :lol: . Loyalty payments in rolling stock please :wink:

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might even prompt me to get back to a certain neglected project :lol:

A kit for thisSteve :?: :roll: Please :wink:
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Postby Jon Randall » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:18 pm

Spring is finally here at Tetley Grange :D

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No prize for the first person to say where I got the seed trays from :D
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Postby Steve Bennett » Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:26 pm

Jon Randall wrote:A kit for thisSteve :?: :roll: Please :wink:


You just sent a cold shiver through this poor little thing

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:lol: Too extravagent for my tastes, dont think I could justify a kit where the donor was so expensive :lol:

On a more serious note, I have thought of possibly doing something similar, though it is a bit of a way down the list for a couple of reasons.
The first is a technical one for me, how to cast the cab in resin thin enough to look right, I tried a mockup with overthick sides and it looked dreadful.
The other is I'm not sure if it would be popular enough to spend time on, maybe if I figure out how to do it, I will post a thread to see if there is enough interest :)
Anyway, back to the Gnine loco I'm working on :wink:
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Postby martin » Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:39 pm

Jon Randall wrote:Spring is finally here at Tetley Grange :D



No prize for the first person to say where I got the seed trays from :D


looks a bit like the box from Ernie?
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Postby More_Cats_Than_Sense » Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:09 pm

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Jon Randall wrote:A kit for thisSteve :?: :roll: Please :wink:


The first is a technical one for me, how to cast the cab in resin thin enough to look right, I tried a mockup with overthick sides and it looked dreadful.


I might have to trouble you for one of the Avalon Line kits in that case then and build a cab myself :wink:
But not right now, I have too many things that I should be doing instead :roll:

Steve Bennett wrote:Anyway, back to the Gnine loco I'm working on :wink:


Put me down for (at least) one Steve :D
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Postby Jon Randall » Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:52 pm

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On a more serious note, I have thought of possibly doing something similar, though it is a bit of a way down the list for a couple of reasons.

Just teasing a bit :wink: Etching
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:lol: Too extravagent for my tastes, dont think I could justify a kit where the donor was so expensive :lol:

Isn't that what ebay is for (mine was £17 :arrow: that's cheaper than a spud :lol:)

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looks a bit like the box from Ernie?

Spot on Martin. Gnow I only need to something with the rest of it :lol:

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I might have to trouble you for one of the Avalon Line kits in that case then and build a cab myself
But not right now, I have too many things that I should be doing instead :roll:


I can help you there Barry, if you buy two then I will build one for you :wink:

Steve didn't say if he was making a kit or a one-off :?: :?: :?:
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Postby Steve Bennett » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:07 pm

Jon Randall wrote:Isn't that what ebay is for (mine was £17 :arrow: that's cheaper than a spud :lol:)


Ah, but this is the super duper new version redesigned by Bachmann, a completely different animal, outside frames, new motor and gearing, not to mention many other refinements. This thing runs like a swiss watch :D
Not mine unfortunately, I only have it to see if it is possible to adapt the Avalon kits to fit it :(

Jon Randall wrote:Steve didn't say if he was making a kit or a one-off :?: :?: :?:


:lol: What do you expect from Barry :lol:
It is a one off experiment, at the moment anyway :lol:
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Postby Jon Randall » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:26 pm

I'd forgotten about the gnew 08 as I don't buy new locos as they don't often stay standard. :wink:
What's it look like with the body off Steve :?: Has it the same mountings?

Who wants the next post :?: It's the hundreth :shock:
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