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Postby demaine22 » Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:31 am

You also need a 20month old child's head...ideally with hair included :twisted:
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Postby demaine22 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:09 am

Building progress!

Finally applied some 'motar' and added a roof. The roof is watercolour paper cut into strips and layered upwards. The whole thing is coloured using enamels then weathered with acrylics.

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The scene is starting to come together now.
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Postby Glen A » Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:58 pm

Looks fantastic! 8)

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Postby Bilco » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:19 pm

The stone-built shed looks like it's been there for years! It's all looking very nice.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:19 pm

The new shed fits the scene very well Simon, I think Bill summed it up, it does look like it has always been there :) I would call that a result :wink:
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Postby demaine22 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:15 am

:oops: Thanks very much chaps, the building was my favourite to work on, and I hope to add some finishing touches over the next little while.

Otherwise I;d say the 'conversion' is complete, and now is the time to focus on stock, figures and details 8)
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Postby Kevin » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:40 am

That's a very nice building Simon. Very realistically blended into it's surroundings.
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Postby demaine22 » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:00 am

I have been playing with the layout recently, need to add weight to the locos, and clean the track right up then add more stock and loads but otherwise the layout is as done as I'd like it to be now. I have settled on calling the layout (in both Gnine and O9) Blackhall Farm Sidings.
Already have an idea for the next project...

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And some O9 just to show the difference...of which there is little...
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After I took these shots I added more static grass around the front, as I felt it needed a little more blending in. But if a layout is ever 'complete' I'd say this is as close as I can come to it.

EDIT: One thing I didn't say was that I'm curious about maybe exhibiting sometime...does anyone know how to get onto the circuit at all? Ideally in the South.
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Postby Glen A » Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:17 pm

demaine22 wrote: One thing I didn't say was that I'm curious about maybe exhibiting sometime...does anyone know how to get onto the circuit at all? Ideally in the South.


Well I'm on the other side of the world, but I'm sure they all work the same.
First step is to find out when a show is in your area. Either through advertising in model railway magazines, model railway clubs, model shops or search on the internet. If the model shop can't help, try emailing the editor of a model railway magazine.
Then you need to find the contact details of the organiser. Ask any of the above.
Email the organiser the following details:
The size of your layout.
A very short ( 2 sentences) description of your layout - where it is set, what it is, including scale. (they need this for preparing programme information).
And a couple of photos.
Tell them this is a new layout never displayed before. (they are always on the look out for new layouts).

After seeing those photos, I'd be surprised if you didn't get an invitation. :wink:
Once at the first show, you may well find you get approached by other show organisers. :wink: :wink:
Or you can ask other exhibitors for contact details of organisers of other shows. They are bound to know a few.
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Postby Adrian » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:41 am

G'day Simon

The layout looks good (in both scales) and as you say, its now finished (yea, right ! Like I believe that !)

Regarding exhibiting I must agree with Glen.
I've just looked at an old copy of Railway Modeller and there was over one page of exhibitions complete with contact details.
There was also a whole list of clubs that might have exhibitions coming up.

When (not if) you do get your first invite make sure that you make up an 'Exhibition Manager's' guide. A printed sheet with contact details for yourself, details of the layout, including photo's and layout dimensions including space around the actual layout that's required and any items required by you or the layout (lights/tables/chairs/power etc).
Print out a number of these sheets, put them in envelopes and don't forget to take them to the show !

When I first showed the FT&OC at a small local show I came away with about 4 more invites ..... after the next show I had more invites than I could handle (including one in Queensland about 2000 kms away .... that one was fun)

Pity you are in the wrong hemisphere otherwise I could probably set you up with a number of shows by the end of the week.

Good luck with any shows that you do attend.

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Postby Steve Bennett » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:36 am

demaine22 wrote:EDIT: One thing I didn't say was that I'm curious about maybe exhibiting sometime...does anyone know how to get onto the circuit at all? Ideally in the South.


Better get your couplings sorted first Simon, looks like you have 3 incompatible systems at the moment :lol:

Seriously though, it depends on the kind of shows you want to do and how far you are prepared to travel.
The advice given above is sound, you just need to contact the show organisers with the details and see if they are interested. Once seen, if you put on a good display, you will find the invitations for further shows will come, exhibition organisers tour other shows scouting for layouts all the time.
If you want contact details for the specialist narrow gauge shows, drop me a PM, I can probably help there.

Layout is looking great in both forms by the way :wink:
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Postby demaine22 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:46 am

Steve Bennett wrote:Better get your couplings sorted first Simon, looks like you have 3 incompatible systems at the moment :lol:


:roll: I know, I have a shunting wagon which links to the loco and Greenwich couplers on the other stock...I could never find the correct replacement wire for the DG's so decided it would be a 'better the devil you know' situation.

Thanks chaps for your advice on pursuing exhibitions, there is one show in particular I have in mind that I'll try first and we'll see if that leads any where. 8)
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Postby Brack » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:15 am

Its a while since I bought it, but I think this is the stuff I use for my magnetically operated DG couplings:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FLORIST-ROSE-WIRE-GALVANISED-7-x-32swg-FINE-200-pieces-/221090243756?pt=UK_Crafts_FloralSupplies_SM&hash=item337a0164ac

I think that you might be able to get black coated versions (certainly you can get green, which might be OK) but I don't really paint mine, its not that noticeable. Not sure if that is the correct thickness of wire, or what mine is, but basically I bought a cheap pack of 7" lengths of galvanised florists wire. It didin't say it was steel, but I figure galvanising it would be a waste of time if it wasn't! Then you can just bend the loop/dropper in one piece and they're magnetically operated.

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Postby demaine22 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:23 am

Thanks Brack,

I get a little concerned about the thickness of the wire, but I think for under £2 it may just be worth a gamble! :)
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Postby Steve Bennett » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:52 am

demaine22 wrote:I get a little concerned about the thickness of the wire, but I think for under £2 it may just be worth a gamble! :)


Hope I'm in time, it is too fine for what you want.
I tend to use 22SWG mostly, though 20 or 24 will also work ok
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Postby demaine22 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:57 am

:wink: Just in time!
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Postby derrickn » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:59 am

I am really impressed with the static grass.I thought my APA layout was so small it could do without static grass,,but having seen the diffrence it has made to your layout,i am not so sure now.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:49 am

derrickn wrote:I am really impressed with the static grass.I thought my APA layout was so small it could do without static grass,,but having seen the diffrence it has made to your layout,i am not so sure now.


Not sure you need it Derrick, but if you do decide to, try it on something else first, it's far too easy to get carried away when you start on static grass.
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Postby derrickn » Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:48 pm

Thanks Steve,i needed a voice of reason to keep me on the straight and narrow,its easy to get carried away when you see something good on someone elses layout.
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Postby rue_d_etropal » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:53 pm

Exhibitions, getting a foot in the door can be difficult. When I moved north I joined the local club, having never been a member of any local club before. It helps when the town is one of the friendliest in the country, but I then just threw myself on them offering to put on small demo display at the annual exhibition, and exhibited every year from then on. I built something new each year, which probably accounts for my large number of projects now.
From getting known in one club, it took a long time before being invited to any other shows, possibly because my annual efforts were not as good as intended.
I did eventually get invited to another show after moving, and from there got to some further afield, but invites are still very low. Having articles published helped a little, but getting into print can be almost as difficult as getting invited to exhibitions. Modelling something different helped me.
So first thing I would suggest is joining local club(there used to be one in Banbury when I lived there, but I only visited their show once). Even if local club/exhibition does not have anything specifically of interest to you, offering a FREE layout is rarely turned down.
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Postby demaine22 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:06 am

Thanks Simon, I'll look into the possibility of joining the local club.

derrickn....don't listen to Steve...experiment ;)
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Postby Steve Bennett » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:38 am

demaine22 wrote:derrickn....don't listen to Steve...experiment ;)


:lol: :lol: :lol:
I agree completely, do experiment, static grass is a great scenic material.
BUT, having seen Derricks layout, that is not the place to experiment, its really nicely finished already.
Certainly, the bank or slope at the front would look great with longer grass Derrick and a few clumps along the base of the cliff at the back. Then a few patches around the track area to tie it all together :lol: See what I mean about getting carried away :wink:
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Postby rue_d_etropal » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:43 am

when I lived in Banbury, club was connected to the big local food company(Maxwell House coffee producer I think), but it is over 20 years ago since I moved from there , up north. Also be warned , not all clubs are as friendly as the ones we have up here.
Also worth while talking to any local model railway shops, and you might have more luck down in Kidlington(Oxford). The only shop in Banbury when I was there was Beatties, not much use, and long gone.
The group I am part of , here, started out as a discussion in shop locally, the same model shop I later tried to help run. If no luck then contact local newspaper asking for anyone interested in creating a club locally. Costs can be minimal, meeting in members homes or the local pub.
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Postby derrickn » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:46 pm

Steve Bennett wrote:
demaine22 wrote:derrickn....don't listen to Steve...experiment ;)


:lol: :lol: :lol:
I agree completely, do experiment, static grass is a great scenic material.
BUT, having seen Derricks layout, that is not the place to experiment, its really nicely finished already.
Certainly, the bank or slope at the front would look great with longer grass Derrick and a few clumps along the base of the cliff at the back. Then a few patches around the track area to tie it all together :lol: See what I mean about getting carried away :wink:


Thanks for the advice guys,as a compromise,i will experiment off the layout,before doing anything rash.
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Postby rjt » Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:50 pm

Take a look in the latest copy of 009 News for a review of the Oxfordshire NGRM June 2012 show. We are a friendly local group and have had our first show, new members are most definitely welcome.
I live in Oxfordshire NOW and find that there is a perfectly good, well stocked, model shop in Banbury and (speak as a satisfied customer only).
Unfortunately I can't agree with a lot of the attached quote which appears to be 20 years out of date!.

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when I lived in Banbury, club was connected to the big local food company(Maxwell House coffee producer I think), but it is over 20 years ago since I moved from there , up north. Also be warned , not all clubs are as friendly as the ones we have up here.
Also worth while talking to any local model railway shops, and you might have more luck down in Kidlington(Oxford).


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