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RAMMA Wood

Postby Simon Andrews » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:40 pm

I have long been a fan of Chris Mace's Woodland Light Railway http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=8393&highlight=woodland and the Örkaggens Järnväg http://okj.malmborg.info/. With RAMMA Works on hold I have decided to start my own O9 woodland railway.

RAMMA Wood could represent a modern minimum gauge woodland line anywhere in northern europe. The base board from RAMMA Works has been used and most of the track is now laid. I have used Shinohara track as their 150mm and 200mm points have live frogs allowing reliable slow running.

More to follow soon,

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Postby chris stockdale » Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:05 pm

As you have probably spotted I am a big fan of both Bo and Chris's lines so I am agog to learn more of your plans :D

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Postby demaine22 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:01 pm

Sounds good Simon, I look forward to seeing more if this 8)
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Postby Simon Andrews » Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:47 am

It's aliive!! Found time to wire up the track and build some maunually operated point / polarity switches.

The test run with a Bachmann Plymouth and a Kato tram found some dog legs / tightening in gauge. These where "eased" a screwdriver and some scale KB track spikes.

Next task is to fit the isolation switches and the the backscene and sides.

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Postby Simon Andrews » Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:42 pm

Well finally have something worth taking a photo of. Two views of the completed benchwork and track.

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Overall size 3 x A4 sheets side by side, scenic area just over 2x A4 sheets end to end. The layout consists of a simple loop, with two issolated sections at the back for fiddling stock and loads.

At the front a inglenook arrangement, to the right a headshunt with a covered workshop engine shed. To the left a kickback into a small two road stock shed.

Having test run the track I have identifed a couple of changes to the wiring that will improve operations.

Still thinking about a fully enclosed micro with high level viewing. Scenic work next.

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Postby Tomo » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:37 pm

Very good construction, I like!

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Postby skylon » Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:13 pm

Very neat! Look forward to seeing the scenic stage. We all know that's the best bit! :D
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Postby Colin Peake » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:29 pm

Very nice, I recall similar fettling with rail spikes on my own attempt at a mini-circuit in O9, some of the now-lifted track still has the holes and missing Peco fixings to prove it....

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Postby demaine22 » Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:06 am

Looks like a great start Simon! Nice bit of operating potential there too! Is there a chance we'll see this at MOMING...?
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Postby Simon Andrews » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:35 pm

Thanks for the positive comments guys. Hope to be the finished article at MOMING 2013 at Pewsey.

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Postby Simon Andrews » Tue May 07, 2013 12:00 pm

A bright autumn day on the Woodland Lt. Rly.

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Since my last post I have been working on the scenery. I have been experimenting with a static grass applicator in conjunction with foam scatter and Silfor turfs. The results are encouraging, but more work is needed. Also planted some trees. Woodland Scenic tree apertures that have been lengthened by about 3cms covered with rubberised horse hair and then Green Scenes scatter.

I have also added a cab control for the sidings so that I can shunt wagons while a train runs continuously on the loop.

Next its the back scene. I have never added a back scene to previous layout. So what is the best way to do it? do I prime the MDF first or just start painting? I am planning on using emulsion paint, would this be a bad idea?

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Postby Wenhaston » Tue May 07, 2013 1:21 pm

It looks good, very good!

I've used emulsion and it's ok. I would personally use a light (white or grey) primer on the bare wood, and perhaps give it a light sanding first to give the primer a 'key'.

Are your trees removable? That is the only problem I forsee, because if I were painting the backscene, I couldn't guarantee not to get some unwanted paint on at least one tree! This is based on my very recent experience of decorating in a large room with plenty of masking tape and a lot of dust sheeting!

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Postby WaterleyShunter » Tue May 07, 2013 2:40 pm

Great layout Simon. I particularly like the 'just trees and track' simplicity. With no structures or people to tie it down to a specific setting, this model could be set anywhere, anywhen. What sort of stock do you plan to use? I don't imagine anything big could get around those end curves.

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Postby Simon Andrews » Wed May 08, 2013 11:42 am

Thank you for your comments Ken and Daffyd.

Ken, thanks for your advice re; painting. Both the trees and back scene are removable so no problems with paint splashes.

Daffyd, yes it does work well in the uncluttered state. I have been running some Hoe Minitrains which seem to fit in very well. I do plan some simple structures, but these and any details could be removable for conversion to a different scale at a later date.

Stock wise I plan to use Blackdog Tramway Collection and Avalon Line AZ range rolling stock. Locos will be Bachmann Plymouth bashes inspired by something small like Redgauntlet.

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Postby Simon Andrews » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:42 am

Having considered the advice given I have thinned out the foliage on the existing trees to make them less "candy floss" / "cotton candy" like and added some more "flats". its an improvement, but there is still work to do.

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I have also made progress with the first loco. Built round a Bachmann Plymouth brick, it is miniature rather than minimum gauge in size.

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As usual, all comments and feedback gratefully accepted.

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Postby demaine22 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:01 am

Cracking stuff Si! The trees look great and the back scene finishes everything off nicely.

I like the look of your loco under construction too, especially the drivers windows...very characterful :)
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Postby Daniel O. Caso » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:32 pm

Simon

The scene you´ve created looks really nice.

I can´t wait to see the loco pulling one or two wagons.

Also the tree shadow makes a great effect.

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Postby RoGNer » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:07 pm

The trees look superb - what a lovely and inspiring railway :D

More pics plz

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Postby Glen A » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:23 am

Trees give it a great setting.
About how long does it take you to make each tree?

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Postby Moronguhl » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:59 am

Loco looks beautiful among the trees, especially in the sun!
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Postby Simon Andrews » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:22 am

Thanks for the positive comments. The trees are reasonably quick and easy. The apertures are Woodlands Scenics products which had the trunks lengthened with wire and Milliput filler. The foliage is rubberised horse hair (lucky enough to have a bag full of the stuff) stretched out over the apertures, sprayed with hair spray, dusted with foam scatter, and then fixed / sealed with more hair spray. The hardest thing is keeping the trees airy and avoiding the candyfloss look; something I still need to work on.

The flat trees against the back scene are sheets of separated / delaminated horse hair layers, cut to a tree shape, mounted on a painted barbeque skewer, and dusted with scatter. I tried using a pan scouring pad but it was too dense even after separating the layers out.

I am rather pleased with how the loco is going. Its not "Colin Peake" standard, but is shaping up well and just needs detailing and painting.

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Postby Moronguhl » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:15 am

How are the Shinohara turnouts btw Simon? I've looked at using them myself as a short radius non-insulfrog option for an O9 project myself. How is the wiring/electricals? Does the set up promote frog switching and are the stock rails supplied with power by default?
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Postby Simon Andrews » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:47 am

Christian,

wiring/electrically the Shinohara points are the same as Peco ones. However, they are a smaller rail height (code 60 instead of code 80), and the shinohara points are not self latching like Peco points.

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Postby Moronguhl » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:06 am

They sound nice. I'm currently using code 55 (phony code 80) for an N gauge US layout but I will look into Shinohara for my much delayed O9 layout.
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Postby demaine22 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:50 am

Lookig forward to seeing this Si,

Sorry to drag up your thread but I was wondering if you'd mind sharing where you got your points from? More distractions await...8)
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