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A Mamod for tea?

Postby RoGNer » Mon May 20, 2013 8:09 pm

http://trainlife.com/albums/view/3496

A few years back I ventured forth into the garden with a supply of Playmobil track, one wagon and a diesel shunter - the body of which was made for me and fitted onto a Playmobil r/c chassis. A former coal bunker base at just the right height in an inglenook corner was used as the location and the track held down with concrete fence post stuff. Never got very far at all though and the track was lifted and the area returned to the mrs for potted plants use.

However, after tea earlier, I threw down some track and 1 siding and currently am charging up the Playmobil r/c battery for a run later before bed time.

The thing is tho I rather fancy some live steam. Always been a fan of diesels really and shunting rather than a roundy but the appeal of steam and a roundy for it to chuff around is (thanks to Garden Rail magazine) getting too much!

If I replace the Playmobil with something else, what should I go for?!?

Is a Mamod a good place to begin?

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Postby Adrian » Tue May 21, 2013 12:48 am

G'day Roger
I have not had any experience with live steam but I have heard that Mamod is probably NOT the way to go.
They are more of a toy rather than a model with only two speeds .... off and very fast.
There are kits of parts that can be added to them to make them behave themselves but if you use these it will probably cost as much as buying a goodish 'serious' loco.
http://www.gaugeonegallery.com/store/?s ... 19_120_131
Ruby is the minimum that I would consider as a starter loco.
Plan to get one myself soon.
However if you could get hold of a Mamod at a real good price and was prepared to live with its fast minimum speed, go for it.
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Postby chris stockdale » Tue May 21, 2013 1:12 am

I thought long and hard about my first live steamer. One of the main things for me was s-l-o-w controllable running. And the fact that It needed to be easily adaptable to 1/12 scale.

In the end I went for a Regner Vincent.

It scarcely needed running in being very good at merely trundling about right from its first steaming.

Good things have also been written recently about Roy Wood's vertical boiler loco:

http://www.roywoodmodels.co.uk/de-winton-

which wasn't available when I bought my Vincent.

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Postby RoGNer » Tue May 21, 2013 8:34 pm

Thanks for the replies chaps. I spent (some) of the day at work pondering over websites and my bank balance.. I keep coming back to the Roy Wood vertical boiler beauty tho 8)

Chris - do you know what trade (if any) is going to Perrygrove on 9th June?

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Postby demaine22 » Tue May 21, 2013 9:11 pm

Hi Rog,

The Roy Wood locos are great and I'd recommend them over a Mamods any day. If your budget can stretch far enough I couldn't recommend the Roundhouse Millie enough if I tried, had one since release around 2000 and its still running fantastically!

My first loco was a meths fired IP Engineering Jane...and that was great fun...although I melted many, many sleepers ;)
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Postby chris stockdale » Wed May 22, 2013 4:37 am

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Chris - do you know what trade (if any) is going to Perrygrove on 9th June?



This is a grab from Jez's post on the Lounge:

'OK, on the railway there will be two trains running, our standard passenger set with either Lydia or the Garratt the other train will be Ursula with the Eaton hall saloon and brake van. Standard entry prices to get into the site but no extra charge for the exhibition. The exhibition is being held in our new function room at the far end of the carriage shed, there should be at least four smallish layouts and a mega trade stand which Si is coordinating and will have products from Modelearth, Talisman, Busybodies, IP, Minimum gauge models and any others who would like to bring stuff to sell (Summerlands?, DJB?, Uskin?)'

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Postby RoGNer » Wed May 22, 2013 11:41 am

Thanks Chris - :shock: :shock: :D i'll bring me wallet!

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Postby RoGNer » Wed May 22, 2013 12:03 pm

demaine22 wrote:Hi Rog,

The Roy Wood locos are great and I'd recommend them over a Mamods any day. If your budget can stretch far enough I couldn't recommend the Roundhouse Millie enough if I tried, had one since release around 2000 and its still running fantastically!

My first loco was a meths fired IP Engineering Jane...and that was great fun...although I melted many, many sleepers ;)



Hmmmm :D lots of choice! too much in fact! I am foolishly getting myself confused as to which to go for.. 32mm or 45mm or 7/8ths let alone what loco.

Here's my "first thoughts wish list" (if anyones interested) and my rambling of thought (such as they are).

Live Steam - yes

Do i want to do some shunting? - if yes, Will that mean i have to go for r/c? i guess so. :oops:

But if i'm content (as if) to watch loco chuff away happily with a few rusty old wagons behind then no to r/c?

Back to the small ad's and web sites

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Postby KEG » Wed May 22, 2013 12:59 pm

My hamster is quite happy with his Regner vertical boiler loco (Willi)
He made me glue some coffeee sticks to it and to construct a roof.

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Gauge can be adjusted from 30 - 45mm. Very easy handling and very slow running, if nessessary. No fancy stuff like RC.


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Postby chris stockdale » Wed May 22, 2013 1:28 pm

Gauge decision: probably at least 80% of 16mm scale bods play on 32mm rather than 45, but naturally all G scalers are 45. As commented, any Regner and many (but not all) Roundhouse locos are gauge adjustable. Roy's VB loco is not gauge adjustable.

Shunting: something slow and geared like a Regner is fine for shunting without RC (I used my Vincent first time out of the box on Si Harris's (Modelearth's) 10' long exhibition layout without difficulty).

Something like a Regner Vincent or Willi is easily adaptable to give a nice 7/8ths or 1/12 scale look

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Postby KEG » Wed May 22, 2013 2:00 pm

If my hamster and me feel like playing with our 7 / 8th friends, we simply put a Rob Bennett 7 / 8th figure at the throttle.


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Meanwhile I prefer layouts mounted at least 3 feet above ground level. Once at ground level, I am never shure, if I ever
get up again.

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Postby Tomo » Wed May 22, 2013 4:22 pm

KEG wrote:
" ... Once at ground level, I am never sure, if I ever get up again.

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You, me, and however many others that suffer this indignity! :lol:

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Postby RoGNer » Wed May 22, 2013 6:28 pm

:D My day of dithering is over.

One Regner Vincent on order!

Sorry me olde Slim Wallet

Now then - Track.?

oh and rolling stock?

Dither dither

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Postby chris stockdale » Wed May 22, 2013 7:22 pm

Well done!

You realise it is now essential that you leap over and join the Lounge too where many more temptations lie in wait... :wink:

In the meantime, here is a Konrad navigating 14" (yes, 14") curves. I reckon the Vincent will probably do likewise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj3a-1BAXKs

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Postby chris stockdale » Wed May 22, 2013 7:50 pm

There's a thread about the Roy Wood loco and Regner VBs in the Lounge at present. Here's a quote from the latest posting, which highlights that slow running is not a strong point with the Roy Wood loco.

"The Regner is far more controllable. The RWM is like a greyhound when running light engine. I have to attach eight wagons with loads to keep it running at a more sedate pace. The Regner will haul at least sixteen loaded wagons quite easily. I intend to try out the RWM with the same load this weekend."

Another thumbs up for Regner, nice as the Roy Wood model looks.

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Postby RoGNer » Wed May 22, 2013 8:11 pm

:shock: wow!

I have made the leap! It was only a small step really in 7/8th's

:D Roger

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Postby RoGNer » Wed May 22, 2013 8:18 pm

Tomo wrote:
KEG wrote:
" ... Once at ground level, I am never sure, if I ever get up again.

Juergen



You, me, and however many others that suffer this indignity! :lol:



Luckily for me the old coal bunker foundations (site of garden railway micro empire) are at just above my knee height. When sitting down on a comfy garden seat its just perfect!

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Postby Steph'H » Fri May 24, 2013 1:22 pm

Chris Stockdale wrote:Gauge decision: probably at least 80% of 16mm scale bods play on 32mm rather than 45, but naturally all G scalers are 45. As commented, any Regner and many (but not all) Roundhouse locos are gauge adjustable. Roy's VB loco is not gauge adjustable.

Shunting: something slow and geared like a Regner is fine for shunting without RC (I used my Vincent first time out of the box on Si Harris's (Modelearth's) 10' long exhibition layout without difficulty).

Something like a Regner Vincent or Willi is easily adaptable to give a nice 7/8ths or 1/12 scale look

cheers,


Got to say I've been very impressed by the slow running of the Regners. Heres a bit of Video showing Chris's Vincent on its first run out of the box mentioned above. Sorry the video quality is rubbish I've mislaid all but the extremely reduced version!

http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gomphu ... 4.mp4.html

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Postby RoGNer » Fri May 24, 2013 6:45 pm

Thanks for the link Steph - also shows the reverser handle is missing from my loco.

It arrived today as hoped for and I am entering a whole new world of something "live" ! Brilliant!! Cant wait to steam up tomorrow. or is the term gas up? :lol:

I enjoyed your article on soldering a skippy in Garden Rail

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Postby Steph'H » Wed May 29, 2013 3:45 pm

RoGNer wrote:Thanks for the link Steph - also shows the reverser handle is missing from my loco.

It arrived today as hoped for and I am entering a whole new world of something "live" ! Brilliant!! Cant wait to steam up tomorrow. or is the term gas up? :lol:

I enjoyed your article on soldering a skippy in Garden Rail

Roger


Glad the article got read by someone :D :D :D

Welcome to the burnt fingers brigade, with the regner!

For anyone wondering if these regners can be bashed... check out Jez Kirkwoods build here http://www.7-8ths.info/index.php?topic=16684485.0

Its looking amazing!

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