Taiwan coal mine stock

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Taiwan coal mine stock

Postby DuffieldBank » Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:03 am

Would anyone know more about these interesting little open wagons at a Taiwan coal mine? I'm keen to build a few.

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Re: Chinese coal mine stock

Postby KEG » Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:15 am

If I am informed right, these pictures are not from China, but from Taiwan.
A 600mm gauge coal mine, now closed.

In case you plan to offer something in Gn15, it might make sense, to buy and build the kit of a suitable loco, offered by Tom A. Yorke,(USA), to get an idea of possible dimensions.

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Re: Chinese coal mine stock

Postby southpier » Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:39 am

I would be extremely cautious in any dealings with the aforementioned loco manufacturer; that is all ...

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Re: Chinese coal mine stock

Postby DuffieldBank » Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:41 pm

southpier wrote:I would be extremely cautious in any dealings with the aforementioned loco manufacturer; that is all ...


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Re: Chinese coal mine stock

Postby nonsuch » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:16 pm

DB

What do you want to know about them? I discovered these coal mines when I was working in Taiwan just as they were closing some twenty years ago. I have many photographs, and dimensions, of the wagons and locomotives. They were 500mm gauge (more or less)

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Re: Chinese coal mine stock

Postby DuffieldBank » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:34 am

nonsuch wrote:DB

What do you want to know about them? I discovered these coal mines when I was working in Taiwan just as they were closing some twenty years ago. I have many photographs, and dimensions, of the wagons and locomotives. They were 500mm gauge (more or less)

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Hi Neil. At this moment, I am most interested in dimensions and photos of the wagons seen in the photographs. What have you?

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Re: Taiwan coal mine stock

Postby nonsuch » Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:37 pm

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My photographs are prints, being over twenty years old. I will dig them out and investigate scanning them.

In the meantime - all dimensions in inches:

Solebar 70, section 4 1/2 by 4, longer dimension horizontal
Body length 56
Body width 33
Body height 29
Planks three or four 1 thick. Some mines had all metal bodies of thin laminated sheets that rusted badly. Any individual mine would have only one pattern - all three plank or all four plank.
Wheelbase 33
Wheel diameter 9
Wheel width 3 overall
Wheel diameter over flange 11
Five spokes, slight 'S' shape
Axlebox a simple pedestal with a transverse hole to carry the axle end. No bearing. Lubricated by hand by the train crew.
Captive coupling chain at one end so cars were ' handed'.
Body interior corner steel angle 1 3/4
'Signature' curved side support 2 by 1/4 section
Overall height above rail 43 or so

Charles Small's book 'Rails to the Mines' has pictures of cars of the same pattern running on 600mm gauge. Presumably these were wider

No paint, just a stock number

I hope that this is useful

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Re: Taiwan coal mine stock

Postby DuffieldBank » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:24 pm

nonsuch wrote:DB

My photographs are prints, being over twenty years old. I will dig them out and investigate scanning them.

In the meantime - all dimensions in inches:

Solebar 70, section 4 1/2 by 4, longer dimension horizontal
Body length 56
Body width 33
Body height 29
Planks three or four 1 thick. Some mines had all metal bodies of thin laminated sheets that rusted badly. Any individual mine would have only one pattern - all three plank or all four plank.
Wheelbase 33
Wheel diameter 9
Wheel width 3 overall
Wheel diameter over flange 11
Five spokes, slight 'S' shape
Axlebox a simple pedestal with a transverse hole to carry the axle end. No bearing. Lubricated by hand by the train crew.
Captive coupling chain at one end so cars were ' handed'.
Body interior corner steel angle 1 3/4
'Signature' curved side support 2 by 1/4 section
Overall height above rail 43 or so

Charles Small's book 'Rails to the Mines' has pictures of cars of the same pattern running on 600mm gauge. Presumably these were wider

No paint, just a stock number

I hope that this is useful

Neil


Useful? It's brilliant. Thank you!

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Re: Taiwan coal mine stock

Postby DuffieldBank » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:27 pm

southpier wrote:as it looks to my untrained eye where the stills are from, i'm assuming everyone has seen these, but just in case:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du-n0E3 ... TN&index=2



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Re: Taiwan coal mine stock

Postby nonsuch » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:29 pm

DB

Hold back on the mass production -

Revision 1 to my dimensions - wheelbase should be 21

I have looked again at the 600mm gauge version - they are of the same design and proportions, but larger - presumably 20% bigger.

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