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Hythe Pier Tramway

Postby ChrisMears » Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:44 am

Thought I'd go looking around and see what I could find on this railway for inspiration. I really like that little battery loco, and at this web address:

http://www.answers.com/topic/hythe-pier-railway-and-ferry

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Postby AndyA » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:59 am

The Hythe Pier Railway is local to me: I think it was last Christmas when Iposted the webcam address. I'll try to find it again.

It is indeed a fun railway, but tellingly it's also an important transport link in the area. Like Hayling, which may seem to be 'just' a miniature railway, the sense of purpose sets it apart. Were I modelling the prototype Jack suggested, that'd be the effect I'd go for.

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Postby KeithB » Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:54 am

One of Steve's "Firefly" locos would do nicely for a Gn15 Hythe-inspired layout. Maybe a lighthouse on the end of the pier with a flashing light for animation....hm-m-m..... ("Careful now, Keith - one project at a time..!!") :lol:
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Postby ChrisMears » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:13 pm

Now this is just on the edge of justifying a totally new thread so I'll keep it brief. Any ideas on the wheelbase of the little locos for this railway. That side on shot is pretty good and I wouldn't mind working up some drawings some time for it, having a known dimension would be a great asset.

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Re: hythe pier loco

Postby Steve Bennett » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:46 pm

ChrisMears wrote:Now this is just on the edge of justifying a totally new thread so I'll keep it brief. Any ideas on the wheelbase of the little locos for this railway. That side on shot is pretty good and I wouldn't mind working up some drawings some time for it, having a known dimension would be a great asset.


Purely a guess here Chris, I would say about 36inches for the wheelbase. If I'm close that should give an overall height of about 7 feet, which would be about right. Sorry I cant give you anything more specific.
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Postby AndyA » Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:03 am

I'm away from tomorrow morning at Sidmouth folk festival, but if this thread is still active when I get back, I'll catch a bus over there and measure the things.

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Postby Catweasel » Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:58 am

It's been many a year since I've "done" Sidmouth Andy. Enjoy. The dims of loco would be useful. Thanks for offer.
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:31 am

AndyA wrote:Besides, I'm wedded to the Tollesbury Granary from the BBC Restoration Village series (well, not really, but I sat there thinking 'yeah, yet again the actual working building isn't going to win' although I may be wrong.)

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Postby Steve Bennett » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:05 pm

Having a dig around on the old computer, here are a few more links on the Hythe Pier line.
http://dewi.ca/trains/2004/hythe/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/teammanley/Solent/HythPier.htm
http://www.freefoto.com/browse.jsp?id=1018-08-0

and a couple of pics of one of the loco's as built back in 1917.

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Re: Hythe Pier Tramway

Postby DCRfan » Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:56 pm

ChrisMears wrote:Thought I'd go looking around and see what I could find on this railway for inspiration. I really like that little battery loco, and at this web address:

http://www.answers.com/topic/hythe-pier-railway-and-ferry


As it's the weekend I finally got around to checking out this link. The early history of the loco raises an iteresting posibility. 'Originally used in a mustard gas factory in WWI?' :idea:

Mustard gas, now that would stop little fingers touching the layout at exhibitions :twisted: I'm sure I have some Colemans mustard powder somewhere :lol: :lol: May not win the 'Best at Show' award though.

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Postby dana » Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:19 pm

got some sign pics from a ammo plant from ebay :P i'll try to post some for ya :twisted: .
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Postby dana » Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:52 pm

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hereare a few signs for the mustard plant but you could also use a pic of colemans mustard byull sign to :twisted:
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Postby AndyA » Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:38 am

I found thw Hythe Ferry webcam link. If anyone wants to do vicarious train-spotting:

http://www.hytheferry.co.uk/

Admittedly, the train is mostly either at the shore end with the loco out of sight, or very tiny at the other end, but sometimes you can see it in mid journey :)

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Postby KeithB » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:39 pm

Regarding dimensions of the Hythe Pier loco, the book "Pier Railways and Tramways of the British Isles" by Keith Turner (Oakwood Press) gives the following:

Length = 8ft 4ins
Height = 6ft 9ins
Width = 3ft 9ins
Wheels = 3ft centres, 16ins diameter, 2ft gauge

There are two types of coaches - regular trailers and driving trailers.
Regular trailers are 16ft x 7ft 6ins x 5ft
Driving trailers are 16ft 2ins x 7ft 1in x 5ft

Goods stock are double-deck luggage trucks 7ft x 3ft 6ins with decks 18ins apart plus a fuel tank car 7ft 6ins x 3ft 6ins.
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Postby Ralph » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:07 pm

Hello Andy...

I found some interesting pictures of a little railway used by the coastal protection construction office at the German Northsea Coast.

Follow the link http://www.inselbahn.de/index.php?nav=1401475

Click on the pictures to enlarge them and don´t forget to visit the other links... ..especially "Halligbahnen"
Many useful ideas for our layouts.

It looks that my little sailing speeder could be used there. :D
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Postby Steve Bennett » Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:15 pm

Thats a good site Ralph, some very useful photo's. Andy is away for 2 weeks so he may be a little slow to respond, but I'm sure he will find them helpful.

I couldnt resist this one, not suitable for Gn15 though
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Postby Ralph » Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:36 pm

Thank you Steve for the fast response and the Info.

The Borgward Railtruck is a very unusual vehicle and was used for a long time at Sylt.
I built one many years ago in 1:87 as a static model..based on a Wiking Truck.
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Postby MOG » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:01 pm

Inspiring isn't it?:D

I built something similar in HOe too.. Used a Wiking cab and a Ratio coach kit cut down to size. Was gooing to sit of a cannibalised American N gauge chassis. Not finished it off but it's lurking in a box somewhere.

In Gn15 it would be a fantastic 'centrepiece' model - although I reckon it would have to be scaled down to minibus proportions... hang on... where's that 1:24 car kit?

I remember visiting Sylt as a kid (I had family on Romo, the next island up).. shame I didn't know about the railways then! The photo captures that landscape very well too though...lovely and windswept.
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Postby Peter » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:12 pm

I just want to pipe in with just how much I am in love with this image
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Postby KeithB » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:51 am

Check here for some interesting photos:

http://www.geocities.com/draisinenl/wadden.html
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Postby Steve Bennett » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:24 am

KeithB wrote:Check here for some interesting photos:

http://www.geocities.com/draisinenl/wadden.html


Yes, there is a great selecrion of speeders on that site Keith. Always makes me chuckle when I see that on one of them, to change direction, the engine is lifted out and turned around :)
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Postby MOG » Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:23 am

How about this for inspiration?
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:42 am

Note there seem to be lots of dents and maybe repairs on the front end, obviously a respray in regulation: :mrgreen:
Nice Loco 8)
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Postby DCRfan » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:03 pm

Love the dog :lol:

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Postby Steve Bennett » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:08 pm

MOG wrote:How about this for inspiration?


Yes, it's a great photo, I dont want to think about carrying a load like that on a Gn15 model though, especially with the curves some of us use :)
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