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Postby Gerry Bullock » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:48 am

So little time, so many ideas!!!!! GerryB.
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Postby fatmac » Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:17 pm

Certainly makes you think.
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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:00 am

May be a little ice age up here in this hemisphere; but, certainly not down there in theirs,
The report says heat records are now happening three times more often than cold records, and that the number of hot days across Australia has "more than doubled".
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-16/a ... er/5202272

Just for grins, here's our local weather in the middle of Missouri http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.ph ... vmgJ4VRwTA
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:56 am

This is what the extreme weather has done to Somerset.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/alanwhite/27-st ... els-floods
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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:40 pm

Oh my, Gerry.
Yep, that is a point
He said: “To a degree I don’t think it matters whether it’s climate change or whether it’s part of the cycle we normally see in weather, we’ve got to deal with the consequences.”
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Postby rue_d_etropal » Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:13 pm

trouble is a lot of people find it easier to blame someone (else), which ever side they are on, when what should be happening is working out ho to deal with the changes in weather. That the big problem with politicians, only really interested in their own jobs. Things would probably run a lot better without them (as well as getting rid of most layers of management).
History has shown that mankind makes 2 steps forward on its own initiative, but one step backwards because of politics.

Interesting article in The Guardian, suggesting flooding could be prevented by alternative ways.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/13/flooding-public-spending-britain-europe-policies-homes
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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:03 pm

Hmm ...
But too little public spending is a small part of the problem. It is dwarfed by another factor, which has been overlooked in discussions in the media and statements by the government: too much public spending.

Vast amounts of public money, running into billions, are spent every year on policies that make devastating floods inevitable.


I wonder if similar happens here along the Missouri River ...
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Edit: I am assuming it is readily apparent that the photo above is not from today in the middle of February in the middle of Missouri.
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Postby michael » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:46 pm

Regards Michael
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Postby michael » Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:10 pm

On the same site in response to a call for some crowd sourcing of relevant coherent and clear graphs this response, which I think is very relevant.

"Urs Neu says:
13 Mar 2014 at 11:39 AM

This is a nice and helpful initative. Since I am working more on the communication side, I’d like to make a point on the basic fallacy (thinking that global warming is not a problem because this has ocurred before):
One problem that fosters this fallacy is probably that there is a wide perception (which is supported by the communication/argumentation of environmental organizations) that the aim of climate change mitigation is to protect climate against human influence, and thus puts the topic in a “green” edge and produces instinctive defensive reactions of the political opponents. But in fact we are not changing climate in a way that it will be “harmed”, since climate itself will cope with anything we do to it and nature will largely adapt, as both have done in the past. The “real” problem is (even if environmentalists do not like that statement) that on the contrary with mitigation we have to protect us against climate change, since a change to some climate states we have seen in the past would be very difficult to cope with for humanity (80m sea level rise e.g. as mentioned by Gavin). Maybe we should rather speak of “impact mitigation” than “climate change mitigation”.
Coming back to the graph: I’d recommend to include in such a graph kind of a compartment where some of the most important impacts (SLR, extremes, vegetation shifts, etc.) of the temperatures at different times (or time periods) are highlighted. This could maybe support some thinking about the harmlessness of climates that have been seen in the past.
- See more at: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/ar ... NbjEM.dpuf "


Given the brutal cold winter that i have just felt and the severe flooding in the UK this seems to be an import and but mostly overlooked issue.
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