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Watts' Pipe Dream

Postby Bilco » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:33 pm

Not much has been going on out in the garage lately, but I've been fiddling about in the warm with some little details. I want to have a pipe leading from the Suffolk & Watt Multigen into the mine to deliver compressed air to the working face, and in a novelty shop in Oxford I found this:


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What fun you can have, making weird straws to suck your drink through.


The contents of the pack look like this:


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12.5 cm plastic tube x 12
7.5 cmm plastic tube x 12
180 degree curved joiner x 4
90 degree joiner x 4
straight joiner x 8
tee joiner x 2
X joiner x 2

The joiners are made from soft rubber, the tubes from hardish plastic, and the material the joiners are made from holds the tubes quite tightly when they are inserted.

So, for my bit of pipework I lashed up this:

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I shortened a 180 degree joiner to get the curve I need to fit into the mine entrance and cut off one of the 'flanges' from one end to complete. At the other end I used a 90 degree joiner; the 'flexible pipe' is a length of spring of suitable diameter, with a piece of wire inside to hold it to the curve I need.

I've sprayed the pipework 'galvanised metal' colour - wet-on-wet silver and light gray - and I've done a bit of weathering. It needs a rust wash to finish. I've bent up some tiny brackets from brass sheet to hold the pipe and a couple of heavy duty electrical cables running from the Multigen, through an electrical panel, and into the mine.

Hours of fun
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Postby rue_d_etropal » Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:23 pm

great idea. Checked out ebay, and there seem to be various makes. I think the ones bought in Oxford are only available from USA, unless this one is the same
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DIY-Straws-40-Piece-Set-Make-A-Crazy-Straw-with-Plastic-Straws-Connectors-/171362652586?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Make_Up_Cosmetics_Foundation_PP&hash=item27e60291aa
It seems to have similar number of parts.
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Postby Bilco » Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:59 pm

Hi Simon,

The one on eBay is very similar, but the contents are slightly different - 2 'long straws', fewer in the 'medium' and 'short' catagory, and only 4 kinds of joiner - no X. But it would do what I wanted, and it's only 19 pence more! Mine's made in China - no suprise there.
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:44 pm

Wallace & Gromit also feaure a similar set albeit without the crossover piping.
I used several components here:
http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=8616
They make ideal industrial piping for Gn15.
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Postby Mike Lee » Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:17 pm

Bilco, What a good find, Super Idea. Always looking for things that make pipework etc

Found a few more under 'Novelty Drinking Straws' on ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pipe-Straws-C ... 2a45fef4aa

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Childrens-Kid ... 43ce48d332

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DIY-Drinking- ... 1e877ab5e6

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DIY-Novelty-F ... 1c441ed365


I think I will be sending for a couple of the last one on the list.

PS Does anybody know where you can get packs 25/50/100 of very thin straws 2/3mm diameter (the size of the ones that are usually strapped to the sides of the Kids square carton drinks) or even better multi-packs of different sized straws? The ones in shops all seem to be about the same size 5/6mm?
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Postby Bilco » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:05 pm

Hi Mike - that looks like good value!
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Postby Nevadablue » Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:14 am

I too need compressed air piping. Thanks for the idea! :D
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Re: Watts' Pipe Dream

Postby bandmbill » Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:35 am

Bilco wrote:Not much has been going on out in the garage lately, but I've been fiddling about in the warm with some little details. I want to have a pipe leading from the Suffolk & Watt Multigen into the mine to deliver compressed air to the working face, and in a novelty shop in Oxford I found this:


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What fun you can have, making weird straws to suck your drink through.


The contents of the pack look like this:


Image

12.5 cm plastic tube x 12
7.5 cmm plastic tube x 12
180 degree curved joiner x 4
90 degree joiner x 4
straight joiner x 8
tee joiner x 2
X joiner x 2

The joiners are made from soft rubber, the tubes from hardish plastic, and the material the joiners are made from holds the tubes quite tightly when they are inserted.

So, for my bit of pipework I lashed up this:

Image

I shortened a 180 degree joiner to get the curve I need to fit into the mine entrance and cut off one of the 'flanges' from one end to complete. At the other end I used a 90 degree joiner; the 'flexible pipe' is a length of spring of suitable diameter, with a piece of wire inside to hold it to the curve I need.

I've sprayed the pipework 'galvanised metal' colour - wet-on-wet silver and light gray - and I've done a bit of weathering. It needs a rust wash to finish. I've bent up some tiny brackets from brass sheet to hold the pipe and a couple of heavy duty electrical cables running from the Multigen, through an electrical panel, and into the mine.

Hours of fun


What diameter are the straws?
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Postby Bilco » Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:42 am

Hi Bill,

The straws are 5mm diameter.

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Postby Geeky Gecko » Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:37 pm

Mike,
you said
Does anybody know where you can get packs 25/50/100 of very thin straws 2/3mm diameter

These what you looking for?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lrcldm6
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Postby Mike Lee » Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:11 pm

Thanks Stefan

Those are what I wanted.

I started another thread called 'Thin Drinking Straws' so as not to hijack Bilco's thread. I thought I had put it in 'Modelling Matters' but it is in 'Trade Tittle-Tattle' :?:

Maybee a Moderator can move the thread from 'Trade Tittle-Tattle' to 'Modelling Matters' please :?:
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Postby Mike Lee » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:43 pm

Just been to the Boro shopping :(

Found the following at 'Discount UK Home Store' for £1.00 :D

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pipe-Straws-C ... 2a45fef4aa
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Postby Bilco » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:01 pm

Bargain!!
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Postby Bilco » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:32 pm

Finally got round to installing the pipe into Watts' Mine ...


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Getting there - Multigen, pipe, brackets, electrical control panel, and telephone. The electrical cables are still to come, as is the telephone line.


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Looking into the entrance - a couple of H&S notices added. But what is that over the portal ...


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After representations made by the union rep the management have put up a 'roof' over the portal to protect against falling rocks. From the number of rocks on top of the roof, not before time.

Still some weathering of the pipe to come, but it's beginning to get somewhere close to what I want. Need lots of rusty junk about the place.
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:37 pm

Hi Bill,
In view of the concrete portal plus the existence of H&S notices I think that the wooden platform to catch rocks doesn't match the modernity of the tunnel.
A steel mesh catch screen would seem more appropriate.
Having said that I recall seeing somewhere ( :( unknown) a similar wooden platform, however it was angled such that any high velocity rock could not roll over the front.
The piping looks great. 8)
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Postby chris69 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:50 pm

Looks fantastic. Great Job!
But have to agree with Gerry, a bent, partially rusted , steel contraption with mesh would look more appropriate.

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Postby Bilco » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:49 pm

Many thanks for the comments and advice, chaps. The wooden 'roof' has been ripped away (only a couple of glue spots holding it in place) and I'll work up a steel frame and wire mesh replacement in due course.

The pipe has had a bit of weathering applied - just waiting for it to dry so that I can assess the need for more. The electric cables are also painted and weathered, and due for fitting tomorrow.
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Postby Nevadablue » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:35 pm

I like it! Steel or wood, no worries. :D Very nice modeling.
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Postby Bilco » Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:07 pm

Pipes and cables now fitted - we're getting there, slowly ...


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Following the comments about the wooden roof from Chris and Gerry, a steel angle and mesh replacement has been fitted - and even angled to stop the rocks bouncing off into the midfield ...


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... and it's already stopped a few, by the look of things:


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Finally, just to give things a populated look and to give a feeling for when we have a running layout ready for Pewsey ...


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Postby Trevor Coburn » Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:38 pm

That looks good Bill, and very similar to the entrance to Chilmark Stone Mine in Wiltshire. ( Dont know it its still there) as I used to work on their generator right beside the mine entrance.


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Postby chris69 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:41 pm

S U P E R ! great , you captured it to the "T"
love the whole treatment of the mine entrance.

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Postby Trammer » Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:05 pm

Excellent stuff.

I would imagine HM Inspector of Mines would get pretty lairy about the lack of a lockable gate on the adit.
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Postby Nevadablue » Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:50 pm

Love it Bill! It looks real to me! The 'improved' rock guard will save a noggin or two. :D
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Postby Bilco » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:14 pm

Trammer wrote:
I would imagine HM Inspector of Mines would get pretty lairy about the lack of a lockable gate on the adit.


Following Trammer's comment the staff at Watts' workshop have been hard at work putting together a gate for the Yawsez Mine entrance ...

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... the foreman is quite chuffed that they made it the right size.


They also installed a pipe to bring water pumped out of the mine workings ...


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... which dischages by the waste tipping line. The pipe runs under the gate and alongside the wing wall - the foreman is glad they took account of that, too...


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... although they all forgot that the gate covers up the H&S sign when it's open!


The gate is made up from some pieces of toy zoo cage that have been sat in my useful bits box for the last 30 years, and some shallow styrene U-section.

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Re: Watts' Pipe Dream

Postby Gerry Bullock » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:18 pm

Very effective Bill, however the pipe looks very close to the track at one point!
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