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Postby Charlie Stewart » Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:01 pm

after a long period of "no-modelling" :cry: I really needed to sit and watch trains go by, to get my interest/ inspiration going again :) . My Girlfriend lives 10 mins from the Humber Bridge so after some dog walking sessions along the VERY muddy riverbanks i became interested in the numerous sites, mainly dissused of various tileries/brickworks and the associated small works sites. after scrambling about with camera here is my very compact take on one such allbeit imaginary site... all is very temporary at the moment being just hot-glue and thin ply .... trying to get a "feel" for the industry & proportions...would welcome anyones thoughts/input??...does it look feasible?? ( not that reality should ever creep into here..of course 8) ) ...I'll let the picccies do the talking..all comments welcome.....
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enjoy... and i've got a video to post up later too!!!! (as if you hadnt suffered enough already hahahahaha...)

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Postby Bilco » Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:39 pm

Hi Charlie - you seem to be off to a great start! The buildings look to be big enough to fit as a brickworks, and dwarf the locos and stock nicely. How about walling off the other end - only by 3-4" or so - so that the trains have somewhere to go to and from? Maybe even put a traverser behind the wall on the short straight so you can change trains??

What is the radius of the curve around the building? I guess if the critter can get round it, it's big enough!

I look forward to seeing this develop.
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:04 pm

I agree with Bill Charlie, looking fine but surely needs some form of fiddle around back of building.
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Postby Charlie Stewart » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:25 pm

Bill, Gerry, thanks for the input, yes there will be a fence/wall etc.. to "seperate" then layout front/back.

to both of you....no fiddle this time as i want this to sit on a table in the room so am gonna "scenic" both sides of the layout, i have the Sunshine orange Co.. if i wanna do some shunting/fiddling :shock: hahahahaha...

anyways as promised (or is that threatened......) here is the video of the layouts first run today...!!! I can watch trains go round-and-round....SUCCESS!!!!!


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Postby Les » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:11 pm

Really enjoyed the video Charlie :D . Great start.
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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:22 pm

Trains doing what trains do best - moving the merchandise 8)
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Postby Jon Randall » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:40 pm

Great start Charlie
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Postby Glen A » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:01 pm

I really like the height of that chimney, its going to look great with the bricks on it.

And I'm impressed, running two trains at once :wink:

Have to agree with the others about a traverser or small wagon turntable at the end of that long siding.

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Postby michael » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:21 am

Agree you are off to a great start Charlie I am going to be a bit contrary and say; that I think that the siding might be better on the outside of the loop and terminate along the edge of the river with a jetty or loading dock to the water, the loop can go into the building on one side and come out the other .

Materials into the Brick/tile/clay works from the river then goods out to the river to waiting barges. The barges dont need to be there but implied by the jetty/dock crane whatever.

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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:42 am

Like it Charlie, minimal track and lots of mud, puddles and reeds captures the feel of the Humber tilleries. Being able to play with a second train on the inner siding, just shuttling back and forth while enjoying the one on the loop passing through the landscape, yup, that works for me :lol:
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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:20 pm

My new "roundy-round" layout..no name yet !!!


alright here's your company name - using "roundy-round" and "no name yet" as something to work from cross referenced with background art on the wall there -
R. R. Nony & Sons Pipe and Tile
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Postby Charlie Stewart » Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:28 pm

Thanks Forrest, for the name fits exactly what i was looking for :D :D

Now to be really cheeky..as i'm useless on computer graphics etc.... would someone please like to make a wall-sign for the works that i could print out?? Pretty please..with a cherry on top????

Michael, thanks for the input all taken on board but,i did try a version with the siding "outside" the oval but it cut the oval's distance down too much, besides the sloping bank is really the sides of a "clay-pit" rather than the actual banks of the Humber,

Steve, as regards two engines at once... yes for the first time i can take advantage of my DCC system :D :D

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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:22 pm

My pleasure Charlie :D

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Postby Bilco » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:50 pm

Hi Charlie - a nice bit of video, and very smooth-running trains. That small radius curve works perfectly, too! I like the title, but I fear I don't have the skills to design you a sign, but I'm sure there will be someone on the Forum who will produce you a stunner.
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Postby dieselwater » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:57 pm

Great looking layout Charlie, has the makings of a real cracker.

Look forward to seeing the mud and reeds etc 8)
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Postby Charlie Stewart » Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:40 pm

dieselwater wrote:
Look forward to seeing the mud and reeds etc 8)


well you dont have to wait too long for the mud/clay, ( the reeds/puddles/water may take a little longer!!!

heres a start on the "clay-pit" end

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Postby michael » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:15 pm

sloping bank is really the sides of a "clay-pit" rather than the actual banks of the Humber


Ok that does make a difference, I obviously misunderstood the design.

I see that now you are back doing some modelwork you are not hanging about are you, progress looks great.
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Postby dieselwater » Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:25 am

The groundwork is looking great! I've always been fond of these pics:

Proper good mud shots 8) Love the critter!

Posted by Geoffrey Tribe:

One of the few example of a working industrial line I photographed was that at Far Ings Tileries at Barton on Humber in 1979.

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Postby Charlie Stewart » Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:02 pm

I know David, oh to re-create that MUD !!!!. These are deffo some of the images which swayed me to this project....

I remember well going to the North bank ( Hessle) regularily in the late 70's to see the bridge progress, and being in awe at the scale of engineeringn on the project. Of course as is always the case i wasnt inerested in the little train etc.. although at the time it would have been a VERY long drive round the South bank to investigate..... thus the reason bridge was built!!!!

That does remind me that i am in need of a 1/25 or 1/24 jcb or "mini-digger" the older the model the better ( only ones i can see at the moment are around £70.00) and it feels a "bit-steep" for the layout atm. I know barry had a kit one on Katham House but cant find one on an internet trawl.... Anyone Help Out....Please??????
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Postby Bilco » Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:24 pm

Hi Charlie - is this the sort of thing you want? http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=5411
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Postby KeithB » Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:39 pm

I have a video of the Far Ings line in operation. The line actually travels THROUGH the loco shed on its way from the pit to the tilery and I always thought that would be a useful view-block. For example, you could have a U-shaped line with a back-drop down the middle - one side the pit and the other the tilery. Then the loco shed could straddle the line at the bottom of the U to act as the view-block as the train passes from one scene to the other.
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Postby Charlie Stewart » Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:56 pm

Bilco wrote:Hi Charlie - is this the sort of thing you want? http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=5411


Hi Bill, thanks but i need something with more of a "bucket"/ "Backhoe", as in the photo above it will have to "reach" down into the claypit for the mud/clay rather than the "bobcat" loader which would "scoop" of the ground??...

Hope that makes sense??..( well it does in my head anyways :shock: :shock: ) .....hehehehehe...

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Postby Gerry Bullock » Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:34 pm

Driff_Charlie wrote:Hi Bill, thanks but i need something with more of a "bucket"/ "Backhoe", as in the photo above it will have to "reach" down into the claypit for the mud/clay rather than the "bobcat" loader which would "scoop" of the ground??...
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You could try here Charlie, though I think most are 1/32:
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Postby Bilco » Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:50 pm

Hi Charlie - the same firm make a Volvo mini-digger - scroll down this catalogue a bit http://www.lambstoys.co.uk/acatalog/Mot ... 8621009727
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:58 pm

An alternative, though dearer however much more detail, can be found by Googling: JOA40010
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