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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:57 pm

Trevor Coburn wrote:Image

The chimney (rolled from 0.015" sheet)


She's looking good 8)

Speaking of rolled chimneys, Interesting that stack apparently shows lines where a brake press was used to curve sheet metal. http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=342240
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Postby Trevor Coburn » Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:54 am

Well, managed to get both this & the air loco back to the UK in my carry-on bag. And beat the weather by a day! :shock: But because of the weather the painting has had to be by brush, and of course theres no wheels or valve gear (that will have to wait until I am back in UK for more than a couple of weeks!)
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But of course these pics show the bits the paint brush missed :oops:

And Finaly, Happy Christmas to one & all, with best wishes for the new year.
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Postby henrix72se » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:10 am

LOVE IT

If it was available as a kit (or even RTR) I would buy it right away! AND I normally prefer to build my own models.

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Postby Gerry Bullock » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:43 am

Sounds as though you've got an order Trevor - make that two. :lol:
I agree with Henrik - looks even better with the paint on.
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Postby Trevor Coburn » Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:22 pm

Now I'm going to need some help here guys; I feel the urge to build some thing (well another loco) I have already got 2 OHE's, 2 ic (one petrol/TVO one diesel) two kettles, and one compressed air loco. What to do next :?: (and trying to keep within the bounds (slightly :shock: ) of realism. [ dont want to upset the purists too much! :lol: ]

Should I build another "kettle" (Decauville, Manning Wardle, or O & K) or a battery trammer, or another infernal combustion machine??????

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Postby Gerry Bullock » Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:54 pm

Trevor Coburn wrote:Now I'm going to need some help here guys; I feel the urge to build some thing (well another loco) I have already got 2 OHE's, 2 ic (one petrol/TVO one diesel) two kettles, and one compressed air loco. What to do next :?: (and trying to keep within the bounds (slightly :shock: ) of realism. [ dont want to upset the purists too much! :lol: ]

Should I build another "kettle" (Decauville, Manning Wardle, or O & K) or a battery trammer, or another infernal combustion machine??????

Over to you..................

Only really one way to answer this, build a Loco the like of which you haven't built before - a V.B. Trevor.
There a few around to base the model upon.

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Postby Trevor Coburn » Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:28 pm

Seem I am bit remiss guys, I took these photos of the embrionic layout last year & forgot to post them!
Track is code 80 rail (so realy a bit light for big[ish] locos...... on Evergreen styrene sleepers (ties) & laid to 18.2mm Gauge (mainly because I have a load of EM coach (disc) wheels.
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Postby gfadvance » Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:41 pm

Hi Trevor,

ideas for a new engine, well you seem to have covered most types so why not a paraffin powered, flash steamer

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And no I have not been able to find any info on plans, sizes etc other than it was used on 2 foot gauge - origonal picture details are in the Lincolnshire Potato Railways , Oakwood Press.

Although one of our number did produce a printy for it

http://www.minimumgauge.info/viewtopic. ... highlight=

towards bottom of page 3

I'm going to have a go at in 2 different scales .... one for the bottom yard and one a little bit bigger
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Postby John New » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:09 pm

Interesting truck. Is there a link anywhere to a print quality version of the drawing as that one is only at the screen resolution level of 72dpi?
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Postby gfadvance » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:24 pm

John, the print in the book is of this quality i.e. low! I took this photo from the same thread as I posted the link .... its top of page 3.

I have the book but even scanned the quality is no better, there are a couple of other photos in this book of this loco but they are of an even lower quality.

I would love someone to come up with a better quality photo or drawing
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Postby John New » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:12 pm

Hi Gordon.

Thanks for the response and sorry, I think I have confused you, I have the book it is scanned from so understand the image quality is poor in the photo of the prototype.

As the image is only 826 x 598 pixels it was the printy I was meaning as I was thinking the printed result would be need to be scaled up and then result in a poor print However I have just converted the chassis image from the copied 72dpi to 300dpi and the printing size would be 1 3/16" which scales out at 2ft 4" in 1:24 scale so I guess it is actually close enough for a 15" gauge version as is.
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Postby AndyG » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:31 pm

This may be a repost but the truck appears in the first part of the pathe film found here

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=19239
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Postby gfadvance » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:16 pm

Thanks Andy,

if it is a re-post I have not seen it and I am very grateful ...... helps fill in some detail and great shots of the controls, etc.
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Postby dieselwater » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:26 pm

Thanks Andy :D first time for me too 8) A really fascinating piece of footage.
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Postby Trevor Coburn » Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:04 pm

Well the "elections" here in Nigeria have a little benifit to the ex-pat comunity. Local laws ban any traffic movement on Polling days, which means I have had a couple of enforced "holidays" ...............aka "modeling time".
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So I I have started on the 18 inch gauge Manning Wardel.......well of course being Military surpless one would have found it's way to Africa............. :shock: (Well thats my story and I'm sticking to it!)

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Having only the one [nearly] broad-side photo, and a fair knowledge of how steam locos are built I have made a bit of a start.
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Yes I know its another "Kettle" :lol: But I like them.
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Postby henrix72se » Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:00 pm

Hi Trevor,

Great prototype! Looking forward to follow this.

I would like to build one of these to, but my wishlist is long ... :D eventually I will get to this point to.

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Postby michael » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:20 pm

Great Start Trevor, I rather like this type of loco myself.
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Postby Trevor Coburn » Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:02 pm

Well another "enforced" weekend at home (elections, dont you just love em?)

So saddle tank, bunker sides, spectacle plates and a few other bits have been made......

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The spectacle plates are not fixed, just perched in position......need to find some ten thou plasitcard to make the rims.
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Postby Trevor Coburn » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:07 pm

Cant believe it's 11 months since I last posted any progress on this loco! Had a bit of a modelling spurt over the last few days,
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Now just got to find something to make the chimney out of and to form the cab roof.

Then coupler /buffer castings and all the other details......
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Postby Glen A » Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:58 am

The plastic work is coming along nicely.
I think you may need to do a bit more work on the wheels though :lol:

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Postby Little Andi. » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:59 am

Some excellent scratch-building going on there - and you're starting to capture that look of your original pretty well.

A great start to a really interesting project - marvellous stuff - keep posting your progress.
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Postby Brack » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:08 pm

looks really good work so far. I'm now going to be really annoying... you mentioned that you were only working from one photograph...

there are drawings of the earlier version of these here on this site: http://www.brownmallards.eclipse.co.uk/Anna/History1.htm

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and here: http://78n18.laurell.nu/prototypes/uk/woolwich.html

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(that last one kindly provided by Mr Laurell).

I know that the last thing you want when you've nearly finished is a drawing, but it may be handy, or it may help others inspired to model one of the little mannign wardles by your work.

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Postby rockershovel » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:01 am

dieselwater wrote:Thanks Andy :D first time for me too 8) A really fascinating piece of footage.


this is probably as much detail as now exists http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Littlewort ... ay_station
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Postby Trevor Coburn » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:08 pm

When I last went shopping the store had some spray paint (In amongst car polish & deodorant! ) Well the can said it was light grey undercoat, I should have known better....... but here's the result:
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With and without the cab roof. That still needs some ribs inside to hold it to shape. Still got to find a way to make the flares on either end of the chimney.

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