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[michael]

And January is not even over yet, Like the other comments have already said Steve a great simple layout well balanced and designed.

Now you have 11 months for the next few

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[Sir Briand]

Sort of interesting seeing what changing the position of the standing figure makes.



I think he sort of anchors where you look when he is standing against the wall. I suspect that when you look at the actual model when he is against the wall you will tend to look away from the lean to and the exit hole and more at the lean to and hole when he is in front. Does moving him the the other side of the boxes make any difference?

Incidentally, love the whole concept of the layout.
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[Steve Bennett]

[AndyA]

[Steve Bennett]

[dr5euss]

I like that card/balsa outbuilding What did you use for glue so it doesn't warp?
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[rue_d_etropal]

[Steve Bennett]

[Steve Bennett]

[michael]

I dont see how applying a balsa overlay on the card is bending the rules.

the key is that the card forms the structure.
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[Gerry Bullock]

Having spoken with Steve he knows what I think about his layout Gno it's superb .
Have to agree with Michael the Shed is a card structure with Balsa used to enhance the look. Could have been card BUT easier to get planking effect with wood. At least that's what Steve said
For that reason I believe a similar card shed with Plastic/ Ali corrugated overlay passes. In some of the smaller scales it would be difficult to find suitable corrugated card.
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[AndyA]

Michael said:

[Gerry Bullock]

Andy look at Michael's post on Page 1 of Dec 27th. I reckon the handrails aren't structure so they're in after all what are they there for just to satisfy H&S
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[AndyA]

[rue_d_etropal]

sorry to have to disagree about using balsa wood as overlay. from my experiments with papier mache it should be possible to create any wood effect in paper.
if necessary produce original in any material, then use it to create a mould with can be used to make a copy in papier mache. then you can build as many sheds or fences as you require.
I am aiming at as close as possible 100 per cent paper or card based, obviously the track is plastic/metal and the trains will probably have plastic bodies(but not necessarily).
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[Steve Bennett]

[Sir Briand]

This is getting to be a very interesting discussion . I have always maintained that much of the success of the look of a layout can be changed for the better, or the worse, by relatively minor shifts in location of objects or addition and subtraction of same.
Something else Steve's layout has is something between the track and the front of the layout. This adds a certain air of mystery as things appear and disappear.
Upton Whent's track and basic structures never changed but it was the fine tuning of the added bits that made the difference over time in the way the layout looked. To me, my modelling is a four dimensional art form and many Gnights seem to have the same approach. I guess small layouts encourage this .
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[michael]

Brian said:

[michael]

[Andrew Milner]

Just to put my 2 pen'orth (sorry for the Gnorthern terminology!). I would like to think the main 'walls' of structures (i.e. those that would be structural on the real thing, bricks, stone, wood) would be formed of paper products, otherwise you could just glue plastic pre-formed sheets onto card and claim they were just 'decoration. IMHO if it's structural in real life, then for the purposes of the competition, it should be a 'paper product' on the model. As for Steve's 'layout' though, as He isn't entering but is generously donating prizes and helping us by giving lessons along the way, I love to look at his (and others!) work for inspiration. In the end, I understand the vote is down to forum members so we will find out what they think later!!!
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[MOG]

We've got a few tangents going here haven't we?

For me - I hope to use as much paper based stuff as possible. Both for the decorative and structural bits. I see that as the challenge. If I can't get the texture I want, or if a printie won't do it.. then I'll think of another approach. (Change the texture or item).
Hopefully stock, rails and people will all be paper based.
Looking about at the huge amount of printies available on the net is a real education.. the ingenuity that can be applied to create just about any shape you need...anyway.. horses for courses and all that.. just adding my small change
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[cjwalas]

I'm also planning to use as much paper as possible, for everything except rails, wheels, and the basic drive units. Little things like chain or lights might not be paper!
I'm hoping to include a couple of downloaded paper models and I'm finally learning how to rescale things on my computer (I know, I'm light years behind!).
I love the idea of this challenge and am almost done with my planning!
Chris

[johna]

I am also planning a layout but I am a bit worried about the strength of the base baseboard if I have to carry it about to exhibitions etc. How many layers of corrugated card should I use and what is the best type of glue to use to bond everything together?

If I can still get someone to make me a couple of points I propose to built a layout 39"x6" wide but how deep should I make it. Apart from the track and the running stock everything will be made from card and paper. I hope to make working gas lamps as well.

john adams

[Andrew Milner]

Working paper gas lamps John Hope you can flame proof them
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[Catweasel]

It's Gnot the flame bit I'm worried about. Where will he get the gas
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