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Steve Bennett Multi-Millegniumer Old Timer Author Friend of Gn15.info

   
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Time for somebody else to take over bumping this thread back up the list as I dont think there is anything more I can add on my little project. Here are a few pics of the completed module (I cant bring myself to call it a layout ). I might add a few more details yet, but I want to keep this as simple as possible for taking around to shows to illustrate how effective a very simple layout using most basic techniques can be. Thats about it, I will leave you with the pics, I'm going to play trains
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Gerry Bullock Millegniumer Old Timer Author Friend of Gn15.info

   
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dr5euss Millegniumer Old Timer
 
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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That looks good Steve, I like the firebell - is it one of yours? _________________ George |
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Steve Bennett Multi-Millegniumer Old Timer Author Friend of Gn15.info

   
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys, apart from the warping base, it was a really fun and quick little project.
The firebell was very much a last minute addition, just a simple turning in a drill with some brass rod inserted into it. I do plan on replacing it with a better one later, it's main task is to hide a join in the printed building, thought it would make a change from a drainage downpipe . _________________ Steve Bennett
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scott b Millegniumer Old Timer Friend of Gn15.info

  
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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That is a beautifull little example at a show to get people moving to do something rather than just thinking about it. You may even want to have a little hand out howto, step by step on how you made it and what you used. I don`t see any need to replace the bell it lookes fine and a very clever coverup it is. You may want to bring your standing figure forward a bit though, the shadow gives away the flat background, but then I`m just being picky.
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Steve Bennett Multi-Millegniumer Old Timer Author Friend of Gn15.info

   
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Scott, your comments tell me that I have achieved what I set out to do. The handout is not a bad idea, will have to look at putting something together. I hope to be demonstrating some of the building techniques, which are all very simple, at a few shows, so a handout to go with it is a good idea.
Good point on the shadow from the figure, I will remember that in future photo's. There is no shadow under normal lighting conditions, just from the lights for the photography. There isnt much room to move him forward much though he would lose his knees as the wagon went past . _________________ Steve Bennett
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Steve Bennett Multi-Millegniumer Old Timer Author Friend of Gn15.info

   
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Just for Scott, no more shadow from the figure onto the building, there's more space this side of the tracks
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michael Millegniumer Old Timer Author

  
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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I like that shot better. The briks don't look half bad either  _________________ Regards Michael
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Steve Bennett Multi-Millegniumer Old Timer Author Friend of Gn15.info

   
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| michael wrote: | I like that shot better. The briks don't look half bad either  |
Yup, the bricks look great . If it wasnt for your printies, this would never have been built, they served both as inspiration and a means of doing it. Martins Gnotts Widgets also provided some of the inspiration and Bob's idea of the plug in cassette sealed it, if it wasnt for you guys, I never would have tried it, so thanks. _________________ Steve Bennett
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AndyA Millegniumer Old Timer Friend of Gn15.info

  
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:36 am Post subject: |
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That's a really neat piece of work, Steve; as has already been commented, a great example that should encourage other people to get something done.
You commented:
| Quote: | | Time for somebody else to take over bumping this thread back up the list as I don't think there is anything more I can add on my little project. |
I've put brown tape round one of the keyboard boxes, cut some track to length, taken the tape off to add reinforcement inside where it sagged a bit, put new tape on. Oh, and I thought of a name .
I do have a secret weapon that may be ready tonight, though.
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gnine: less is the gnew more
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Steve Bennett Multi-Millegniumer Old Timer Author Friend of Gn15.info

   
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| AndyA wrote: | | I do have a secret weapon that may be ready tonight, though. |
All these mysteries, what with you and then Gerry with his instant layout tease guess I need to learn patience .
You are either up early, or had a good night out last night . _________________ Steve Bennett
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DCRfan Millegniumer Old Timer Author

  
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:27 am Post subject: |
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I had better go and find some toys to throw out of my cot
This looks so good now, what will it be like with the rest of the years titivating  _________________ Paul
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Steve Bennett Multi-Millegniumer Old Timer Author Friend of Gn15.info

   
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:44 am Post subject: |
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| DCRfan wrote: | I had better go and find some toys to throw out of my cot |
No need for that Paul
No titivating will be done (well maybe a little) and it is not being entered in the challenge, being one of the sponsors gives me a good excuse not to enter . It's just a demonstration of what can be done with basic materials and techniques, Michael did the hard work with the artwork for the backdrop. _________________ Steve Bennett
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scott b Millegniumer Old Timer Friend of Gn15.info

  
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Steve, that last shot is set up beautifully, it shows so much depth and the lack of shadow makes the whole scene completely believable. Michael may have set up the printies(which I have printed as well for a player to be named later) you made them come to life with your design and creativity. It may all be very simple and basic technique but easy things can be done badly and this is a fine example of how to do it right.
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Steve Bennett Multi-Millegniumer Old Timer Author Friend of Gn15.info

   
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| MOG wrote: | Best get some creosote on the base of that fence though! I was taught to erect them with a few inches ground clearance.  |
There is ground clearance, you cant see as it has gravel boards in place, which are fairly well hidden by the weeds. Had to put them in, the scenic materials kept falling off the end of the board
Thanks again to all for their kind comments. It is difficult to get across the simplicity of this design, it's all straight lines and as long as you can stick things together squarely and neatly, similar results should be within the reach of most. I wish I had the time to do a step by step guide at the moment, but that will have to wait. I will do a follow up to the working with Balsa thread (http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=124) on building the timber shed and the different method I used this time on staining it. Oh, it does have a card structure, the balsa is just glued to the outside .
If anybody wants to know how anything was done, ask away, better to do it soon though before I forget what I did . _________________ Steve Bennett
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michael Millegniumer Old Timer Author

  
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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And January is not even over yet, Like the other comments have already said Steve a great simple layout well balanced and designed.
Now you have 11 months for the next few
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Sir Briand Demi-Millegniumer Old Timer

 
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Sort of interesting seeing what changing the position of the standing figure makes.
I think he sort of anchors where you look when he is standing against the wall. I suspect that when you look at the actual model when he is against the wall you will tend to look away from the lean to and the exit hole and more at the lean to and hole when he is in front. Does moving him the the other side of the boxes make any difference?
Incidentally, love the whole concept of the layout. _________________ Sir BRIANd
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Steve Bennett Multi-Millegniumer Old Timer Author Friend of Gn15.info

   
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Sir Briand wrote: | | Sort of interesting seeing what changing the position of the standing figure makes. |
Yes, the eye automatically gets drawn to a figure, it happens without you being aware of it. It is a useful tool to draw the viewers eye to where you want them to look, or away from something you dont want them to dwell on. This is why figures look better singly or in groups, having random figures scattered around confuses the mind and prevents the eye from taking in the scene properly, or from settling in one place. The same effect can be achieved with a brightly coloured item in an otherwise naturally dull setting, try placing something bright red or yellow against a brick wall and see what catches your eye. _________________ Steve Bennett
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AndyA Millegniumer Old Timer Friend of Gn15.info

  
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | try placing something bright red or yellow against a brick wall and see what catches your eye. |
you mean like, maybe, a fire bell?
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Andy A _________________ Gn15: Gnot so much a scale, more a state of mind
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Steve Bennett Multi-Millegniumer Old Timer Author Friend of Gn15.info

   
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| AndyA wrote: | you mean like, maybe, a fire bell?  |
Yup, you are right there Andy, will let you into a little secret, the firebell is only painted in red primer, the aim being that it shouldnt attract the eye too much, bright red would have been overpowering I think. Guess everybody knows that little dodge now  _________________ Steve Bennett
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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I like that card/balsa outbuilding What did you use for glue so it doesn't warp? _________________ George |
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| Quote: | | card/balsa outbuilding |
bending the rules a bit, yes , I know you are not entering competion Steve, but....  _________________ Simon Dawson,
Narrow gauge Francophile interested in 1m, 60cm,50cm , 40cm and smaller gauges . Build in scales from 1/6th to 1/24th. Also 1/32nd and 1/35th using 16.5mm track to represent 50cm and 60cm gauges.
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Steve Bennett Multi-Millegniumer Old Timer Author Friend of Gn15.info

   
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| dr5euss wrote: | I like that card/balsa outbuilding What did you use for glue so it doesn't warp? |
I will do a full write up on it soon, but to answer your question, I use exterior grade Evo-stik, a very thin layer is applied to both the card and the balsa and allowed to dry a little so it is just going off, then put the two parts together and it then acts like an impact adhesive. You only want a very thin layer of glue though, I use an old credit card as a spreader, as it is nice and flexible, but a thin piece of styrene sheet would also work. _________________ Steve Bennett
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Steve Bennett Multi-Millegniumer Old Timer Author Friend of Gn15.info

   
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| rue_d_etropal wrote: | bending the rules a bit, yes , I know you are not entering competion Steve, but....  |
Hmmm, good point, I didnt even give that a thought, guess I could get disqualified for that . _________________ Steve Bennett
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