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Postby Bilco » Tue May 03, 2011 10:27 am

Well, after several weeks wrestling with my new lap-top and Windows 7 I've reached an accommodation with the OS - I am allowed to feel that I have it sorted most of the time, and the OS is able occasionally to demonstrate that I haven't.

After the hiatus I thought I would practice my "cutting plasticard into small pieces and sticking them together into odd shapes" skills. The object of the exercise was to produce a flat wagon that would be able to carry an unspecified load at some unspecified time in the future. The starting point was a packet of Plastruct 3/16" U channel section, plus bits from the scrap box.

I tried to keep it simple, and cut side members and end beams to match the dimensions of my skip chassis, and glued them together channel side outwards. My first attempt was a disaster, but by taking a bit of care and erecting the frame on a sheet of glass a step at a time, a usable item was produced. Corner brackets, couplers and cross-members were added from bits hanging around.

For axle-boxes I thought I'd make some more of my ersatz Hudson items, as used on my skips http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t= ... sc&start=0

After a frantic search to find the remnants of the square section rod with a hole through I discovered that I had just enough to make 3 sets of axle-boxes on a production line basis. I then discovered that I only had 7 of the PTFE pinpoint bearings, but found some brass top-hat bearings in the back of the garage, which work just as well.

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The frame and axle-boxes - the ones with brass bearings will be used on some future project - if I can find them again.


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The frame garnished with rivets and bolt heads to taste.


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Frame sprayed black and with some subtle (for me) weathering. I thought it would be nice to have a 'nearly-new' look, rather than my usual, 'dragged up after 20 years on the sea-bed' weathering.


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The finished item on its wheels.
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Postby Simon Andrews » Tue May 03, 2011 11:20 am

Nice 8) :mrgreen:

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Postby Gerry Bullock » Tue May 03, 2011 4:05 pm

Looks excellent Bill, my only comment would be that I expected the coupling pin to be outside the chassis frame. :?
So little time, so many ideas!!!!! GerryB.
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Postby Glen A » Tue May 03, 2011 7:07 pm

very nice.
so when do you start taking orders? :lol: :lol:

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Postby michael » Tue May 03, 2011 11:28 pm

Bill Excellent!!
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Postby Bilco » Thu May 05, 2011 12:51 pm

Many thanks for the comments, chaps. Gerry - funny you should say that .... looking at the photo I began to have doubts about the placing of the coupling pins, and your comment tipped the balance. It didn't take too long to remove the pins, fill the resulting holes, make new holes and refit the pins. A lick of paint and ...

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Having got that out of the way, the next job was making the wooden flat deck to go on the chassis. For this I took some lolly sticks - 99p for a pack of 100, courtesy of the eponymous local shop - and cut some to the width of the chassis plus a bit. These were distressed by running the teeth of a razor saw lengthwise, then deburring with a wire brush. I glued these bits together, then added longitudinal members underneath, spaced so that the chassis just fits between them, with a thin strip inside to raise the floor above the cross-member and its fixings. Next, I added baulks at the ends, and stained overall with very dilute burnt sienna acrylic. Knots were added with a fine brown felt-tip.

To protect the edges of the floor I posited angle-iron strips, with bolts through everything to hold it all together. To make this I used L-section styrene section along the edges and then the ensemble was garnished with Cambrian NBW castings and rivets. Final touches were tie-down rings at the corners.

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To add a bit of weight to a very light wagon I super-glued brass pins from redundant electrical plugs to the underside of the floor. I discovered the hard way that fixing them flat interfered with the wheels - fixing them edge-on avoids the wheels and just fits under the axles.

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Postby skylon » Thu May 05, 2011 3:51 pm

Lovely SBS Bill.

Can't believe I've never thought of the plug pins, I replaced a load of broken ones only today!
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Thu May 05, 2011 4:26 pm

Great wagon Bill. 8)
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Postby dieselwater » Sat May 07, 2011 5:48 pm

A very nice wagon Bill. I really like the finish 8)
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Postby Bilco » Tue May 10, 2011 10:44 am

Didi has been trying the new flat wagon out around Wood Brothers line

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She's also been giving rides to the other drivers. Cuddy has just realised that, when he overheard her saying she was going to dump him, she really meant it


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It looks like my figures could use another dose of Dullcote :roll:
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3/16" channel length

Postby on30critter » Mon May 16, 2011 2:51 am

Can you please tell me the width and length of the frame that is made from the 3/16" channel? Also the thickness of the corner braces would help.

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Postby Bilco » Mon May 16, 2011 7:47 am

Hi on30critter - the frame measures 65mm x 32mm and the corner braces are 0.8mm. Sorry for the mixture of Imperial and Metric (3/16" channel and all that) :roll:
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Postby on30critter » Wed May 18, 2011 6:38 pm

Thank you, I can use my metric scale. I believe the cross braces in the middle are Plastruct tees or am I wrong? Can you give me the size of these. I can get the length.

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Postby Bilco » Wed May 18, 2011 9:03 pm

Hi - Yes, the cross-braces are 3.2mm T section.
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