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Postby NarrowGauge » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:41 am

I had started a layout sometime ago (original post http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=7405) but I wasn't able to achieve the desired building design that I wanted so the project had been shelved for a while.
After attending the Toowoomba show back in the beginning of June I was reinspired by the model railway scene and wanted to get back into some modelling but college commitments really was preventing that from happening. So now with this semesters exams over with I had a few days up my sleeve to express my creative self again. Rather than start a new layout from scratch or build another diorama I decided to breathe some new life into the G9 layout that started so long ago.
I even have a place to display the new layout at the nursing home that I work they will be doing a display for the upcoming carnival of flowers so I have a deadline to work to and limited space to put it in. So the circular G9 layout seemed like the perfect option.

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I covered the plywood with glue soaked paper towel and painted it "dirt" brown. The track has been ballasted in just a couple of spots in this photo but I'm working on small sections to get it all secured down.

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I could resist adding a little detail under the bridge.

The concept of the whole layout will be a 9 inch minitature train ride in a public park. There will be a small ticket sales office and maybe a large tree but generaly it will be open and minimalistic.
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Postby chris stockdale » Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:19 am

Good to see you back Tess, we've missed you these last six months or so. The layout is looking promising.

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Postby mad gerald » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:48 am

Tess,

I really like these inverted eight shaped layouts ... 8)

I came across Bay Freigth Division by Greg Malinowski some time ago and was dabbling with the idea converting it to Gn15 ... which turned out to be quite space consuming ... :D

I just started wondering, what dimensions your layout is gonna have in G9 ...?

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BTW: Here's a link to a Bay Freight Division video

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Postby Steve Bennett » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:56 am

Nice idea Tess and good to see you back modelling again.
Have to confess I have a liking for this kinda thing, it's very relaxing to just sit down and watch a train run around for a while, all good therapy at the end of a busy day :D
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Postby NarrowGauge » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:11 pm

mad gerald wrote:... I came across Bay Freigth Division by Greg Malinowski some time ago and was dabbling with the idea converting it to Gn15 ... which turned out to be quite space consuming ... :D

I just started wondering, what dimensions your layout is gonna have in G9 ...?

Cheers

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Yes I have seen this layout (well on the internet anyway) and this was where I got the initial inspiration for the layout design. I was planning to do something along these line however this layout measures just 77cm diameter and the inner circle is just 45cm which was going to make it impossible to have any straight edges on the buildings and in some spots I would have only been able to make the building just about a 1 cm think (just a double sided wall really).

I would think that to make a layout simular to the “Bay Freight Division” design but in a G-9 Scale/Gauge combination you would need to have the smaller circle of track with a diameter of no smaller that about 90cm to be able to get the buildings in with some degree of realism. One day I would like to try this layout idea again.
One other thing that is important to remember is, how would you get your layout into places. At 77cm wide I can just get this layout through an open door way without having to tip is on its side. Plus its light enough for me to carry it by myself. I usually don’t have anyone to help me carry things (finding a Chivalrous gentleman these days to carry things is a rarity) if you had a circular layout like this, with say a diameter of 120-150cm you would either have to roll it on its edge or have it broken into to pieces. This 1st option opens you to damage to the layout and the 2nd would be a tricky job to say the least, getting not only the baseboard & track to re-align but the buildings as well is way beyond my wood working skills.
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Postby mad gerald » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:25 pm

Tess,

thanks for replying that fast ... :D

My intention was to lay the track as tight as possible which would have lead to the circumtance to build a hand laid crossing as well (I don't feel enabled to manage this YET) ... :roll: ... and I planned to place buildings in a way that the tracks are running through them (to save space) i. e. on the layout Potter & Klayman by Ian Campbell (same link as mentioned above) ...

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Postby Adrian » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:16 am

G'day Tess
Good to see you back.
I, once, built a circular layout just over 4 foot diameter.(about 1200mm)
Luckerly it was built in a factory which had roller doors and was only ever exhibited in halls that had double doors.
The only trouble with its size was with the vehicle that it traveled in.
My vehicle, of the time, would take the layout but not the stand or visa vesa.
Very bad planning :oops:
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Postby Gerry Bullock » Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:31 am

NarrowGauge wrote:--------. I was planning to do something along these line however this layout measures just 77cm diameter and the inner circle is just 45cm which was going to make it impossible to have any straight edges on the buildings and in some spots I would have only been able to make the building just about a 1 cm think (just a double sided wall really). -------


Welcome back Tess.
I like the layout's concept however I'm puzzled that you say that there's no room for a building in the centre. OK it might not be to your taste but Gem-u-Nine which I plan to start working on again shortly has a rectangular pizza dimensions of 33x26cms and here:
http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=8130
shows the building that will occupy that space, footprint is 21x18cms.

Replicates a jewellers in our West Country albeit there was another section which doesn't fit.:cry:
So little time, so many ideas!!!!! GerryB.
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Postby NarrowGauge » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:08 pm

Gerry Bullock wrote:... I like the layout's concept however I'm puzzled that you say that there's no room for a building in the centre. OK it might not be to your taste but Gem-u-Nine which I plan to start working on again shortly has a rectangular pizza dimensions of 33x26cms ...


Oh, no, I didn't mean that the layout is too small for buildings. It was just the original idea of this layout was to have a building covering the inner circle and the outer track went around the buildings' outside. Simular to the "Bay Freight Division" layout mentioned above.
On the contrary I have no problem making small buildings, in fact I prefer them. It was just I had a specific idea in mind and I raced ahead to lay the track before I worked out the mechanics of it. (Wow so unlike me ..LOL)

Having said all that I decided to re-work what I had completed so far and hence the layout in its current form (well work in progress anyway).

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On that note progress has been slow on the layout as it’s been cold and rainy here for the last few days and the glue is just taking for ever to dry.
I had thought about buying a heat gun as I don't want to blow up my hair dryer but I figured by the time I get into town to buy one the glue will probably dry.


Hey speaking of small (and interesting) buildings I recently became acquainted with a design concept of "SteamPunk" and while seaching the net for design ideas I came across this building.
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... But this is for another project :)
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Postby Carlo » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:58 pm

Wow, Tess -
Love that steampunk building!
Any more info or pictures of it?
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Postby chris stockdale » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:16 pm

Tess, Carlo, chaps,

Anyone who likes steampunk can no better than checking out this amazing modelling by Chris Walas:

http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t= ... =steampunk

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Postby Moronguhl » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:32 pm

I would totally give a thumbs up to steampunk model railways!
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Postby demaine22 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:26 am

Hi Tess,

Looking forward to seeing more on the layout, glad you dug it back up, I always liked the track plan!
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Postby NarrowGauge » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:51 am

Had some great weather today to I took the opportunity this morning to finish gluing the grass and foliage down.
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The middle still needs work done
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Some long weeds in place
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and the bike is getting overgrown by weeds.
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Postby Jon Randall » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:01 am

Looks great Tess, and the bike is a great touch 8) :D
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Postby NarrowGauge » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:12 am

Thanks everyone for the words of encouragement now I have a favour to ask. Can anyone post a picture or provide a link to a suitable small building that I can place in the middle. My thoughts are that it should be some sort of ticket sales booth and or mantainence area/shed for the loco and passenger wagons. Actually on that note I'm also looking for ideas on the wagons. I was thinking its basicly going to be a bench seat on wheels but yould love some input on this one too.

Thanks in advance
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Postby Kevin » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:50 am

Tess,

This is the ticket booth on my GN15 pizza.

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I thought that I had a photo of the completed model on Photobucket but only have interior shots.

I will look when I get home for photos of the finished thing.

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Postby Gerry Bullock » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:10 pm

So little time, so many ideas!!!!! GerryB.

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Postby NarrowGauge » Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:23 am

Yes thats the sort of thing I need. Thanks Gerry.
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Postby Adrian » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:27 am

G'day Tess
Or something like this ?
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This one uses one of Steve's self propelled trucks with slightly modified seats from Ozark and all sitting on a Black Beetle, although you would probably need a Kato tram chassis.

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Postby Oztrainz » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:39 am

Hi Tess,
Glad to see the modelling bug has bit again.
Years back my 2' gauge museum had a trackworker's transport - simply a small (Braked Hudson type) timber-decked flat car with a garden chair bolted to each end with the riders facing inboard. The new rail regulator some years ago took exception to it and insisted that we remove the seats.


Recipe -
2 x dollshouse garden seats,
1 suitable flatcar chassis, plate over deck to get width & length needed to accomodate passenger(s)
combine & test run
(Tip - you will need to ballast it up with a lot of weight down low)

If you can't get garden seats, I made a O-16.5 model of the flatcar by bending & soldering up a some heavy gauge wire to make the seat frames and then glued on styrene strips for the seat runners. I also used this technique for the driver's seat on the Field Twin's Simple Speeder

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Good luck if you decide to go this way, at least it shouldn't cost too much to try it out :wink:
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Postby Simon Andrews » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:55 pm

Welcome back Tess. Like the way you are revamping the layout.

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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:04 pm

Not sure if these will give any ideas for you Tess.
http://sambrandist.blogspot.co.uk/2011/ ... ntial.html
Not quite on the beach, but pretty close.

As for coaches, there are really 2 different types used on railways this narrow. Those where you sit astride a central seat with footboards either side. The second is more like a conventional coach with bench seat across and possibly easier to find figures to fit. Either way, they are only one person wide and the centre of gravity is kept as low as possible.
This site shows both types:
http://www.cvmrailway.com/passenger-carriages.php
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Postby NarrowGauge » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:09 pm

After much searching I came to a decision... well for half of my question anyway.
The ticket booth is going to be based on this bulding...

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and is going to be placed outside the track loops instead of inside like I was planning.
So now on the inside there is going to be a large (large-ish) tree with a park bench or picnic table under it.
Something like this ...
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So Here is the very crudely drawn plan of the layout.
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